What sounds more logical: That everything are created from a master mind or from

Question: What sounds more logical: That everything are created from a master mind or from nothing!?

Atheists against God believers
Have you ever seen in nature something to be created out of nothing!?
If all started from a cell or a big bang, who created that cell!?
who cause the big bang!?

If God doesn't exist then from were we have the superior mind!?
And don't tell me evolution because is not really being proven yet, is just a theory!.
And have you ever seen from something inferior to be created something superior by accident!?
Only if something Superior chose something like that and create that!. So if that is nature, is nature having a mind!? like us!?
and if so, isn't maybe that, what people call, God!?

Thanks!.

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I think that everything created from a master mind is more logical!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

Your premise is that something is created!. That is a wrong premise!. The energy and matter in the universe are permanent!. They've always existed in some form, and always will!. One can't say this is not possible, because then one would need to turn around and argue that a permanent deity is also not possible!.

And yes, I've seen inferior conditions create superior elements!. That's called "improvement", and it happens all the time!. Actually, it's called "change", since "superior" is a relative opinion of the viewer!.

And no, natural change is not what could normally attributed to "God"!. "God" implies intentional environmental interaction, benevolence, and/or purpose!. Nature implies randomness and coherence to physical law!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

Actually there the same to me but why is

science always disregarded as the "nothing" !?

There's a reason for the existence of everything on earth, billions of years of evolution have molded and shaped are living planet into it's current ecosystem!.

Something from nothing is obvious to see:

Why do old peaches turn gray out of the blue!?

How did tornado clouds rip apart a house!?

What is responsible for the blossoming of are planet could very well be
the seeds of another planet deep in are universe!. I believe in the Panspermia hypothesis that "seeds" of life exist already all over the Universe!.

Earth isn't the center of everything unless you limit your thinking!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

It is a mistake to get hung up on the details!.
Religion and science are just two different ways of telling the same story!.
The only real difference is that science admits to not knowing the final answer!.
Almost all religions claim they DO have the final answer, and it is a different answer in every case, to be taken on trust, that is to say, Faith!.
I have a greater respect for those religions that don't claim a monopoly on truth!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

Your right evolution is just a theory ,unproven but, Not one single passage of the Bible has been proven to be the truth!. The big bang theory is at least founded within the laws of Physics it just takes a little getting use to!. Remember the simplest answer is usually right!.
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after studying physics and the complexities of the human body my conclusion is that it is inconceivable for things to have come about as they are without some kind of intelligent design or some kind of pre planing taking place

now as to weather it is god as biblical religion defines him i am not so sure as god it self can not be studied also i have not meet an intelligent atheists yet who has said that they believe in no creator whatsoever just not the biblical god

and so to answer your question-maybe it depends on the person
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This has nothing to do with God or atheism!. Your question itself is indicative of a dogmatic stance of organized religion!. Read some Kierkegaard or Buber before you ask such questions, for Christ's sake!

Yes, Christ's sake!Www@QuestionHome@Com

Please study Darwin, Dinosaurs and any 21st Century publication before retiring as you seem to have a remarkable lack of knowledge!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

Why couldn't evolution have been masterminded by God!? Www@QuestionHome@Com

God with his infinite mind and infinite being created the illusory universe out of nothingWww@QuestionHome@Com

Everything comes from Nothing!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

Which came first, the chicken or the egg!?Www@QuestionHome@Com

!.!.!.logically, Nature is the answer!.
But who said that Logic is the key to our existence!?!?Www@QuestionHome@Com

!.!.!.created from nothing!.!.!.if all can learn that simple fact!.!.!.
!.!.!.the world would be a more humble and peaceful place!.!.!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

everything is created from nothing and along the way things and animals decided I like being alive and so needed to survive, so we got smarter trees got taller and cheetahs ran faster!. evolution is the best possible option at least there is physical evidence like fossils and similarities in DNA and Human behaviour, opposed to um!.!.!.say the bibles 2 pages of text written by an unknown person (if you ask the right questions and actually read the bible as you would any other book you'll find the bible and most holy texts of most religions are not written by who/when they say there were)!. I believe the closest thing to GOD is everthing around us!. and most things are made from polished and further developed inferior items, infact they are only superior when you compare them to something else e!.g!. blu-ray vs DVDs , yea I think that kinda makes sense!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

Is it just me or is your question reallly biased towards Creationism/Intelligent Design!? :)

There are a lot of things in this universe that our science is just not yet able to comprehend -- but just because we don't know how something works, it does not mean that it must have been created by a Superior being!.

Just a few hundred years ago, it was "uncontestable fact" that the earth was the center of the universe, around which the sun, moon, and stars revolved!.

A few hundred years earlier, everything from weather to sickness and disease, to earthquakes and several things that we now know to be natural phenomenon were attributed to the action and intervention of "gods"!.

Evolution is called a "theory" because scientists today have been humbled by the truly silly things that they used to call scientific fact in the past (e!.g!. spontaneous generation: it was once believed that flies were spontaneously generated from the bodies of dead animals -- rather than having grown from maggots that grew from eggs that were laid there by other flies!.!.!.)

In the sheer vastness of the known and possibly the unknown universe, there are a nearly infinite number of possibilities where random combinations of chemicals and environmental conditions did NOT give rise to an intelligent being!. Besides, we call ourselves "intelligent" based on our own standards! Talk about arrogance! :) For all we know, dolphins or koala bears are actually more intelligent and they look at us the way we look at a trained dog who knows a few tricks!.!.!.

That said, I actually do believe in God!. :) But I figure that if all the scientific facts provided incontrovertible proof of God's existence, then there would be little room for true faith!. (I say "little" and not "no" room for faith because there is still a jump that you make when you go from believing in your head and putting your belief/faith to the test!. --You've heard the story of the tightrope walker who had a crowd of "believers" acknowledging their faith in his ability to carry a full grown adult across a rope strung across the Niagara Falls on a wheelbarrow after he demonstrates using several heavy barrels -- until he requested for volunteers!? Head belief vs Heart faith)

Peace! :)

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Biased much!?!.!.!.But thats fine!. Majority of people will say the former is more logical than the latter, this is so because we are "used" to seeing "superior minds; humans" creating an "inferior things; any objects like chair, table, etc"!. Speaking of quantum mechanics, there is a theory called vacuum fluctuation which basically states that something can be created out of "nothing"!. I am not saying i am an expert in quantum mechanics but i think your additional details, suggest that you have rather "shaky" understanding of quantum mechanics!.

Evolution is a theory, just like gravity is!. You will "believe" in the theory of gravity because you are always under its influence and you know it!. Evolution takes a lot of time, you are being influenced by it, but you cannot perceive it because its such a slow process, and this does not mean evolution is false!. Evolution is both theory and a fact!.

You received some hilarious answers!. My advice to you is that, instead of putting "who", use the word "what"!. Try to be objective, not biased, even obvious things can be interpreted wrongly when you are prejudiced!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

Well, some Atheists (Which I am CERTAINLY not) believe the cosmos is infinite, always expanding and contracting!. They think that nothingness cannot exist because it cannot have any properties, and once you say "nothing existed" you are giving nothingness the property of existence!.
Henceforth, existence always existed!. But how is that so!? If it IS indeed infinite, would I not have to transverse an Infinite amount of time to get to where we are now!? Everything is quite fine tuned, and I think Atheists are a rather cocky brood!. i do believe there is a reason beyond ours!. Us trying to comprehend God is like attempting to teach a kitten Algebra!.
EDIT: In Actuality, a permanent Deity COULD be possible, without being created,because you cannot confide God to physical laws, for God's existence would be considered to be Meta-Physical, existing outside of the physical realm!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

The most logical thing is to admit that we have no-where near the capacity needed to understand the nature of existence!.

The next step is to get on with life, in a moral fashion!.

It is true that, in observable nature, there is conservation of energy and something can't come from nothing!. But out understanding of these sorts of things is still very much in it's infancy!.

The most use one can get from the whole Creation thing is not an inarguable explanation for our existence, but an knowledge that God is a fundamental part of who we are!. Trying to argue it on the level of science is just not the point!.

The fact is, we exist!. God helps us understand ourselves and existence, but not from a scientific perspective!. It's like comparing the car driver's manual from your glove box to the master mechanical engineering plan!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

In support of your answer I find many of the atheists on YA some of the most closed minded people i have ever come across!. That's up to them, if they wish to deny themselves the possibility of creative genius!.
I saw an atheist mention earlier, laid out in some dumb equation like style, that thought is created by man, and mans thought created the bible!.
Now whatever your religion, you will find this to be true!.!.!.once you harness the power of creativity, nothing can stand in it's way!. All those factors which would need to be there to ensure the creation came into being, suddenly materialise from nowhere, it's as if invisible particles just conjure up the right conditions for the creation to come into being!.
I'm talking about any kind of creation!. A project, a plan, some desire that your mind has conjured up, and if you have experienced that, you will know that something else exists that drives it!. Closed minded atheists are denying themselves the real opportunities of personal development!.Www@QuestionHome@Com