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Question: Has greed replaced ethics!? Pleasure replaced Morals!?
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I think a gang mentality evolved in either the 80s or the 90s with we can have it all, Children raised by children, not by parents!. Sex for pleasure became a right!? That was a 90s thing!.
Mexican marijuana cartels sully US forests, parks
By TRACIE CONE, Associated Press Writer
57 minutes ago
National forests and parks — long popular with Mexican marijuana-growing cartels — have become home to some of the most polluted pockets of wilderness in America because of the toxic chemicals needed to eke lucrative harvests from rocky mountainsides, federal officials said!.

The grow sites have taken hold from the West Coast's Cascade Mountains, as well as on federal lands in Kentucky, Tennessee and West Virginia!.

Seven hundred grow sites were discovered on U!.S!. Forest Service land in California alone in 2007 and 2008 — and authorities say the 1,800-square-mile Sequoia National Forest is the hardest hit!.

Weed and bug sprays, some long banned in the U!.S!., have been smuggled to the marijuana farms!. Plant growth hormones have been dumped into streams, and the water has then been diverted for miles in PVC pipes!.

Rat poison has been sprinkled over the landscape to keep animals away from tender plants!. And many sites are strewn with the carcasses of deer and bears poached by workers during the five-month growing season that is now ending!.

"What's going on on public lands is a crisis at every level," said Forest Service agent Ron Pugh!. "These are America's most precious resources, and they are being devastated by an unprecedented commercial enterprise conducted by armed foreign nationals!. It is a huge mess!."

The first documented marijuana cartels were discovered in Sequoia National Park in 1998!. Then, officials say, tighter border controls after Sept!. 11, 2001, forced industrial-scale growers to move their operations into the United States!.

Millions of dollars are spent every year to find and uproot marijuana-growing operations on state and federal lands, but federal officials say no money is budgeted to clean up the environmental mess left behind after helicopters carry off the plants!. They are encouraged that Sen!. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif!., who last year secured funding for eradication, has inquired about the pollution problems!.

In the meantime, the only cleanup is done by volunteers!. On Tuesday, the nonprofit High Sierra Trail Crew, founded to improve access to public lands, plans to take 30 people deep into the Sequoia National Forest to carry out miles of drip irrigation pipe, tons of human garbage, volatile propane canisters, and bags and bottles of herbicides and pesticides!.

"If the people of California knew what was going on out there, they'd be up in arms about this," said Shane Krogen, the nonprofit's executive director!. "Helicopters full of dope are like body counts in the Vietnam War!. What does it really mean!?"

Last year, law enforcement agents uprooted nearly five million plants in California, nearly a half million in Kentucky and 276,000 in Washington state as the development of hybrid plants has expanded the range of climates marijuana can tolerate!.

"People light up a joint, and they have no idea the amount of environmental damage associated with it," said Cicely Muldoon, deputy regional director of the Pacific West Region of the National Park Service!.

As of Sept!. 2, more than 2!.2 million plants had been uprooted statewide!. The largest single bust in the nation this year netted 482,000 plants in the remote Sierra of Tulare County, the forest service said!.

Some popular parks also have suffered damage!. In 2007, rangers found more than 20,000 plants in Yosemite National Park and 43,000 plants in Sequoia Kings Canyon National Park, where 159 grow sites have been discovered over the past 10 years!.

Agent Patrick Foy of the California Department of Fish and Game estimated that 1!.5 pounds of fertilizers and pesticides is used for every 11!.5 plants!.

"I've seen the pesticide residue on the plants," Foy said!. "You ain't just smoking pot, bud!. You're smoking some heavy-duty pesticides from Mexico!."

Scott Wanek, the western regional chief ranger for the National Park Service, said he believes the eradication efforts have touched only a small portion of the marijuana farms and that the environmental impact is much greater than anyone knows!.

"Think about Sequoia," Wanek said!. "The impact goes well beyond the acreage planted!. They create huge networks of trail systems, and the chemicals that get into watersheds are potentially very far-reaching — all the way to drinking water for the downstream communities!. We are trying to study that now!."

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It seems that way Wylie but there are a minority of people who still cling to the values of right and wrong; good and bad!. In amongst the poor you will find that those people are predominant but when it comes to those with great wealth then you can be sure that those of a moral and ethical backbone are in the minority!.
That's the way I see it!. But it also seems to me that even the poor are getting more and more greedy with a lack of ethics and morals in their daily lives!. The world seems to be slipping into a moral recidivism!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

But what is unethical about greed and what is immoral about pleasure!?

These are instincts that, when not in excess, are necessary for survival!. When a child is born until reaching adolescence, his or her psychology is very self centered!. Is he or she being unethical!? If sex with my spouse is pleasurable, is it immoral!?

What happens as we grow older and wiser, we learn that there is a hierarchy of our needs!. We learn that there are some things which may be more pleasant than our basic needs!. They may be a priority, but it does not mean that our instinct in meeting our basic needs is in itself an evil!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

No not replaced we may believe that people in the past were all trustworthy but the more in depth you look the more you will see that greed and pleasure have always had a role in history though it has changed based on culture and laws!.
It is easy to think everything is getting worse and we are on the brink of impending doom but the fact is people are have been doing this for centuries!.
It helps me to think of the abolition of slavery I believe this was a big step forward maybe we are actually getting better!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

yes and yes!.

we have a negative savings rate, and have for years!.
we refuse to elect a politician who doesn't promise a tax cut, even if it's paid for by deficits!.
(keep in mind, deficits is stealing from our kids and grandkids!.)
the fair that predominates on TV, because people watch is, certainly doesn't promote morals!.
and gets worse every year!.
our school test scores might be improving, but our kids are not better educated!.
we elect politicians based on who has the best sound bite (flip-flopper)!.
we drive huge cars knowing that it's bad for the environment, and the country!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

I don't think man kind is more evil (in Error) to day then as before!. I do know that the ideology of secularism is at play though!. Materialism denies God, secularism simply ignores him; at least that was the earlier attitude!. More recently, secularism has assumed a more militant attitude, assuming to take the place of the religion whose totalitarian bondage it onetime resisted!. Twentieth-century secularism tends to affirm that man does not need God!. But beware! this godless philosophy of human society will lead only to unrest, animosity, unhappiness, war, and world-wide disaster!.

Secularism can never bring peace to mankind!. Nothing can take the place of God in human society!. But mark you well! do not be quick to surrender the beneficent gains of the secular revolt from ecclesiastical totalitarianism!. Western civilization today enjoys many liberties and satisfactions as a result of the secular revolt!. The great mistake of secularism was this: In revolting against the almost total control of life by religious authority, and after attaining the liberation from such ecclesiastical tyranny, the secularists went on to institute a revolt against God himself, sometimes tacitly and sometimes openly!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

"But beware! this godless philosophy of human society will lead only to unrest, animosity, unhappiness, war, and world-wide disaster"!?

As if those things weren't there whether we believe in God or not!.

It's an everlasting war!. Sometimes it appears greed and materialsm is domiant, sometimes the other way around!. For the record, I think it's worth noting that most of the population in the world, isn't materialistic!. Don't think just about U!.S!.A or thoer other well developed countries!.
As far as greed goes, I don't know!. I guess, look at Wall Street!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

If you look at the world 20 years ago wouldn't you say it was better then today!. Pleasure is in opposition to morals!. A example would be sex without being married!. Most of the time it's for pleasure!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

Yes and yes!. Where have you been, in a cave!? And what's wrong with a little pleasure, or a lot for that matter!. I'm not greedy with the exception of one thing, my freedom from religion and the freedom to be a Heathen!.



Be well all!Www@QuestionHome@Com

One can be greedy and ethical!. Many people get rich through ethical means!. And one can have pleasure with morality!. There is no "replacement" feature between either pair, neither is exclusive of the other!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

Greed is a opposing force to pure ethical goodness, it can never replace it, it has just obscured it in our society!.!.!.

Same with Pleasure to moraleWww@QuestionHome@Com

there is no pleasure in greed, it rots the mind!.!.ethics and morals will come from all this, it doesnt have a choice!.there is a big lesson coming!.!.!.!.almost like feeding 4 hungary tigers two pounds of meat!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

G Among the elite, etiquette has always been more important than ethics!. The last eight years have just supersatisfied the greedsters because one of their own was running the temple!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

You failed to mention Sex and it's inevitable replacement of\ Religeon!. Was that an oversight or a non-issue!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

!.!.!.its a new millennium and ethics codes!.!.!.YES!.!.!.
!.!.!.thanks for asking!.!.!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

It hasn't really gotten any worse!. People have always been like that!. There were even materialistic yuppies in Platos time!. That's why he said "As long as you're GETTING, Get understanding"!Www@QuestionHome@Com

Better to know what is right and wrong !. Then swim in swill !.Www@QuestionHome@Com