How do morals exist within this Premise?

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Question:

Premise:

1: There is no spiritual aspect to the Universe!. (please NO RELIGIOUS RESPONSES)

2: You : A biological organism seeking pleasure over displeasure that is mortal!. Upon death one ceases to exist, one's entire volume of life-experiences is deleted, there is no more awareness!.

4: Time !.1-Beginning of Universe to the first moment of awareness - infinitely small
!.2 - From immediate present to point in future where the person dies - non-existent - basically if you die tomorrow or in 30 years it doesn't matter because if you died tomorrow you wouldn't "miss" the 30 years that could have been!. no need to avoid death!.

!.3 - Time period from death (ceasing to be) to end of Universe/human civilization/earth/solar system/human influence(legacy)/etc!. - become infinitely small!.

6: There are no Universal consequences or laws!. All laws are subjective!. "Feelings" don't make something "right!."

QUESTION: Would abiding by rules that inhibit your maximum pleasure be irrational!?Www@QuestionHome@Com

Best Answer - Chosen by Asker:

This is a very good question, and one that I have tried to answer for myself (and failed to come up with any answer that could sufficiently convince me)
The immediate solution seems to be moral nihilism!.!.!.

It could be argued that all rules that are accepted by society (and thus become 'laws') should rationally be followed, because failing to do so will result in an inhibition of pleasure (jail, fine, etc!.)!. So we should sacrifice some of our immediate pleasure to guarantee long-term pleasure!. This means it is irrational to steal and rape etc!.
I'm not sure how far this goes towards establishing any sort of 'morality' but it's the best i've been able to come up with so far!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

They don't!.

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Let us make an arbitrary distinction between MORALS ( being my/our relationship to God ) and ETHICS ( being our relationship to each other )!. In the latter case, nothing changes!.

Our well-being as humans is not restricted to ourselves as individuals!. Humans ( and many animals and even the social insects ) are social beings with regard for our children, family members, tribal members, those who share our language, culture, citizenship, interests )!. The various rules that can be put in the ETHICAL category still hold and are there for the Darwinian reason that we ( our children, families, tribes, interest groups, etc ) are better off if we follow them!.

Of course, this view must acknowledge that "world brotherhood" takes something of a back seat to "blood brotherhood" but that's the way people have always acted!. The calculus of Rule Utilitarianism would seem still to apply!.Www@QuestionHome@Com