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Question: Do you accept the utilitarian justification for killing innocents!?
For example America has consistently stood by it's policy of bombing the hell out of public places where they believe militia or known "terrorists" have been hiding out!. I strongly believe this is terrorism in itself, you knew innocents were in these public places yet you still went ahead and killed them as "unfortunate" collateral damage for the "greater good"
To draw an analogy on September 11; when the planes hit the World Trade Centre if the excuse for this had been a known American Operative who had been threatening the security of Arab nations resided there then logically taking steps to eliminate him and thereby causing similar collateral damage must also be fully justified!. If you argue that it's different since it was planes being used as opposed to missiles then let's make it more hypothetical and pretend it was missiles that blew it up!. So would you accept a utilitarian justification for these acts!?Www@QuestionHome@Com
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No I don't, killing the innocent is obviously completely evil !.!.!. even I can understand that and I'm young and stupid! So why can't old smart people get it!?Www@QuestionHome@Com
Well I don't think it is right to kill at all so I guess my answer would have to be no, then again in the case of any killing I would say no to just about anything since I don't believe it should be humans who decide when one continues to live or dies!. Humans are to irresponsible with enough of the power we have now we decide who lives and dies!? Madness!. :)Www@QuestionHome@Com
Well, I say end justifies mean!. It is unfortunate the many people die, but c'est le guerre, that is war!. It is their fault for attacking us, and are we not justified to destroy they that killed 3000+ of innocent Americans!. Terrorist use these innocent civilians as human sheild, and it is unfortunate that they do, for they are spineless cowards!. America does it best to prevent calateral damages, but some time they are unadvoidable!.Www@QuestionHome@Com
ur bluring your lines here!. what happened on 9-11 was prior to any conflict!. they knowling killed those innocent people just to kill innocent people!. that was the terrorism!. when the us bombs a building in a time of war, which this is, they aim for a so called bad guy and if innocent lives are lost then yes for the greater good its acceptable!. but thats for both sides not just ours!. death is a part of war and theres not much else to it!. but ur anology doesnt work because we werent in war and most people didnt even know what or where afghanistan was!.Www@QuestionHome@Com
NO!.Www@QuestionHome@Com
Time and unforseen occurrences befall us all!.They say that all is fair in love and war!. To keep what freedoms we have left innocent people will die!. Its a shame that innocent people die but they do every day 365 days a year!. 2 million children die every day all over the world due to starvation!. There innocent!. Planes,cars guns, ships bombs, people,it does not matter what is the cause the innocent will continue to die!.Www@QuestionHome@Com
You are right!. The United States itself is a terrorist state!. As Noam Chomsky noted, if we were to apply to ourselves the same laws we applied to the Nazis at Nuremberg after World War II, then all our post-war presidents would have to be executed!.
Harleigh Kyson Jr!.Www@QuestionHome@Com
Islam spread by ppl embracing Islam out of their own will, thats a fact!.
How can a small tribe spread so far as Islam spread!? cant the oppistion fight back!? maybe Islam spread by the will of God, people embraced Islam like i have!.
Millions of ppl convert into Islam everyday, i myself a convert, i dont kill, i wasnt forced to be a Muslim am i am opressed!? dnt think so, lmao, lol!.
You cant accept facts, cant accept reality, you are insecure, unattractive & got issues cuz of it!.
I personally know 46 ppl who converted to Islam in the last 2 years, they are educated, wealthy, intelligent, some are poor but they dont do bad, so rest ma case!.
Fact is Islam is the fastest growing Religion in the World, i myself a convert, whites, blacks ,latinos, aborginies, educated, wealthy ppl are all converting, poor ppl convert to Islam, ppl from all walks of life are converting to Islam, attractive slim tall fair skinned women are converting to Islam aswell as any woman, are they mad!? dont think so, maybe they realise the truth of this life & hereafter, they are strong minded/hearted/willed, unlike you, lol!.
Fact is you are weak, gullable, easily lead, insecure, got issues & unattractive!.
Islam teaches to help the poor, give Zakat (charity), fast (Holy Month Of Ramadan), pray, obstain from drugs, alcohol, and many other things, so is this bad!? anyone who does this is a devout Muslim, so no devout Muslim will ever leave Islam, doesnt make sense, i have never known anyone to leave Islam!.
The ones who do leave (where ever they are & who) are a rearity, a minority, they were never Muslims in the first place, they are weak, easy, cant take pressure, cant resist to tempation, dont know anything to about Islam, no Muslim who knows about his/her Faith ever leaves Islam, its like your leaving something good and that only means can't resist tempation, weak, want to have sex before marriage, want to flirt, have no shame, no dignity, no courage, want to do drugs/alcohol, etc, i know personally 14 girls who have converted to Islam in the last 9 months, Al-Humdulliah, these girls are all smart, slim fair pretty, educated, intelligent, but they still converted, maybe they have self-respect and dignity, maybe they aint unattractive as you who is very weak!.
The Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him) liberated Women from slavery, gave them Equal Rights, property amongst other right good things, so you see you are uneducated, weak, pretender, you are a jeleous person, uncivilised person, you have issues over your looks because we all know 110% for a fact your unattractive & things arent going for you so you take it out on things which are Superior then you, better then you and at the same time your embarassing yourself, making a fool of yourself, i can say so much in support of Islam & so many things about you but it be lame & your'e not worth it!.
It clearly shows Islam is bigger then you, your so effected that you have to pretend someone your not, lmao, you keep coming up with these statemtns which ppl dont care, you follow propaganda, biased media, you belives what uncivlised narrow minded ppl tell you, that makes you really weak, ugly and sad, mark my words you will have a emotionally unstable life, i promise you that!.
I love being a Muslim, i know 33 converts to Islam & they are all happy, they aint killing anyone, so are they bad!? dont think so, lol, have you forgot about the killings of Muslims by Non-Muslims!? killings of innocent Muslim Men, Women & Children in Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, Bosnia, Nigeria, do you know abt the crusades!? Christians killings Muslims children whereas the Muslims spared the Christians those days, see the contrast!? the Beauty & Wisdom of Islam!? you see your someone confused, disillusioned, cant accept the facts, the truth & reality in life which is Islam is the BEST Religion, the Holy Quran has never been changed, the Muslims gave the West three Meals a day routine, enhaced Medicine, Technology, the Muslims were writing down the Holy Quran full of scared texts, Hadiths, verses of Wisdom & Beauty whereas that time the white anglo saxons Europeans were savges in the forest, who never seen ink or paper or words /writing, see the contrast!? the World one time was civilised under the Muslims, under Muslim Spain the Jews, Christians & ppl from other Faiths lived freely, but when it was Christian Spain the Muslims, Jews & other Non-Christians were presecuted, see the contrast again!? you see you dont know anything about Islam , you never have, your very very very weak and degrading, no female has ever left Islam, 98& of Muslim women are happy being Muslims, will and do wear the Hijab/Burka out of their own Will (God Bless Them), this Poll was taken in the Americas, Europe & MiddleEast, so you see they could have rejected Islam as they were protected & nothing could have happened to the but they didnt, they Embrace Islam, respect the Faith of what their Ancestors sacraficed, Muslims are Muslims out of their own Will, belive me i know considering am a Muslim Convert, its always the unattractive, weak degrading ppl like you who are always easy, laughable, saying things which most people know the truth about, lol!.
The Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him) had to go to war, the enimies of Islam were controlled & guided by satan, so wud u sit back and get killed!? lol, the Muslims fought back simple, the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was guided by God, how esle can Islam spread so much as it has & is spreading, no way can a tribes of ppl conquer nearly all of the World, cant the opposition fight back!? you see people embraced Islam out of their own Will & by the Will of God, why wud God let Islam spread then!? rest my Case, your researching so much about Islam that you are effected, lol, you cant find anything against Muslim, just because your life is sad and no one fancies you and u take it out on Religion, lmao, pathetic!.
What the Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him) meant he was victorious by defeating the enimies of Islam & giving them terror, should one give a cup of tea to somone who wants to kill you!? lol, wake up & smell the coffee man, lol, look at the bigger picture, the Holy Quran has never been changed, the Holy Quran gave me Answers that i didnt get in Christianity, am a Muslim now & so much happier, have easy life, (thanks Allah Subanatallah), i have always lead a happy good life but Islam keeps me going spirtually, i love being a Muslim, Islam makes sense to me, am killing no one so am i a terrorist!? rest my case!.
I pray that Allah Subanatallah takes satan out of you, makes you see the right path & guide you and takes you out of the misery you are in!.
Peace!.Www@QuestionHome@Com