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Question: Why do the septics pretend that the French don't have a proud military tradition!?
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Karl m

I don't remember the British surrendering at Dunkerque!. Tis true we didn't win, but the fact is that the remains of the BEF (350,000 men) stood waist deep in water for hour after hour waiting for the little boats who had sailed from the Kent coast, to come close in shore to evacuate them from the beaches at both Dunkerque and Calais!. These men were the basis of the "new" British Army that fought for another 5 years without help from anyone else!.

Surrender - I don't think so!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

Sceptics, you mean gun totting,pee brained cowboys like George Bush!. This common misconception is the result of the French refusing to aid America in its immoral and disastrous invasion of Iraq!. They are also known for surrendering to the Germans after few weeks of fighting in WWII, but so did the Polish, Dutch,BEF(British expeditionary force), Czechs(most of Europe)!. The Russians would have also surrendered quickly if they didn't have such a huge country!.
In addition, brain dead red necks claim, in between Seasons of Miniature usa flag waving, that the French owed them for saving France in WWI(the us only fought 1 battle in this war) and WWII!. What these cretins conveniently fail to remember is that without the aid of France the good old USA would never have won their fight for independence and America would still be a British colony!.
The French do have a proud military tradition and excelled in some periods such as the revolutionary wars!. In addition, they had a large empire in Asia and Africa!. They also had defeats like the USA which got it's *** kicked in Vietnam by a bunch of rice eating peasants or like today where it is losing in both Iraq and AfghanistanWww@QuestionHome@Com

cute!. Insult us, and then ask a question!.

Actually, anyone who's at all educated knows the French had a very proud military tradition, at least up until 1870, and probably right through to 1918!. However, their successes in the 20th century have been few, and never without considerable aid from other major nations!. I suppose that this lack of victory in the 20th and 21st Century is the basis of the perception that all the French are really any good at is kissing and surrendering!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

Possibly because they don't like to admit on having to rely on the French (as well as the Spanish and Dutch) to win their independence from Britain; without whom it could have failed to succeed!.

Although, to be fair, during the 20th century France hardly surpassed itself militarily!. Every time Fritz coughed, Rene rolled over and waved a white flag!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

skeptics!.!.!.France's relatively easy fall in WW2 and the apparent acceptance of the populace of the Vichy government cast a shadow on a once proud military tradition!. In more recent times it has been popular to trash the French military history because of the French's official reaction to the U!.S!. invasion of Iraq!. Anyone with a few brain cells knows that the U!.S would have lost the Revolutionary war without the French!. Somehow a lot of us tend to forget that debt!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

Most septics seem entirely unaware of the fact that had it not been for a famous French general, Lafayette, they would not have won the Revolutionary War, because it was he and his military skills plus lots of French troops who really won the day and not a bunch of boys with muskets and no shoes!.

Just because the French got done in during the BlitzKrieg of 1940 does not mean the French have a crap military history!. Their whole history of glorious including their continuing Revolution!.

France Libre - vive la France
http://uk!.youtube!.com/watch!?v=4K1q9Ntcr5!.!.!.

Now gaze upon these magnificent photographs of French veterans of the Battle of Waterloo!. We have nothing like it here in England!.

http://dl!.lib!.brown!.edu/libweb/collectio!.!.!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

Ignorance, a narrow view of the world (and history) and being a big bunch of whiney girls about France daring to put its own interests ahead of the USA's in 2003 when the USA decided to invade Iraq!.

France's military history is far more to be proud of the the USA's!.!.!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

It's like the great 'Islamic scientific tradition' - it exists, but it all happened a long time ago!. In fact, it's doubtful if you can call a tradition something that hasn't come down to the present day!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

Because they lost most of the really important battles in history!.which puts them on the back foot of history !. But that is not to say that they should be ashamed they proved many times there courage in battle and with Napoleon proved it!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

Probably because they're embarrassed that it was the French who won the American War of Independence for them!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

i think it has to do with recent failures!.!.!.they have had many victories but a long time ago!. what tends to stick in ppls minds is the napoleonic wars and their rather feeble resistance to the germans in WW2Www@QuestionHome@Com

Maybe because of this: http://uncyclopedia!.wikia!.com/wiki/Frenc!.!.!.

Quotes from : http://www!.code7r!.org/Bintoons/allies2!.h!.!.!.

Quotes
French history, !.!.!.!.
"As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure!." --- Jacques Chirac, President of France!.
"As far as France is concerned, you're right!." --- Rush Limbaugh

The history of defeat, !.!.!.!.
"I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me!." --- General George S!. Patton
The history of surrender, !.!.!.
"It's no surprise the French won't help us get Saddam Hussein out of Iraq!. They didn't help us get Germany out of France, either!. Still, it's essential for them to join us in the war against Iraq!. They can teach the Iraqis how to surrender!." --- Jay Leno

"Did you see the new bomb the government came up with!? It weights 21,000 pounds!. The Air Force tested this bomb in Florida and the bomb blast was so strong at Disneyworld 25 French tourists surrendered!." --- Jay LenoWww@QuestionHome@Com

Ignorance and the fact that the French always entered both World Wars long before the YanksWww@QuestionHome@Com

"Septics!."

Oh, that's funny!Www@QuestionHome@Com