Who gave us the right to change someone's name?

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I don't want to be called "former semen of Zeus"!. So why should Macedonia change their name into FYROM!? I'm a Greek and I don't have a problem with these name!. They are Macedonians, nothing we will achieve denying it!. Their country is Macedonia, our is Greece, so why are some of us (the Government too) making this problems!?Www@QuestionHome@Com

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Nobody has not given you that right!. But, you fill like doing that:

AEGEAN PART OF MACEDONIA AFTER THE BALKAN WARS

Change of Toponym

Immediately after the Bucharest Peace Treaty, when it became quite clear that Greece had usurped territory which did not belong to it either by the ethnic structure of the population or geographically, the Greek government conducted a census of the population in the new lands!. According to this census the Aegean part of Macedonia numbered 1,160,477 inhabitants!. In 1917'the law known under the number 1051 was passed, article 6 of which established the formation and functioning of the town and village municipalities of the New Lands!. On 10th October 1919 the Commission on Toponym in Greece issued a circular letter which contained instructions for the choice of place-names!. The circular letter from the Commission was immediately followed by a booklet by N!. Politis entitled "Advice on the Change of the Names of Municipalities and Villages" (Athens, 1920), published by the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Greece!. At the same time, special sub-commissions were formed in the newly-established districts in the Aegean part of Macedonia, whose task it was to study the problem on the spot and to suggest new names for the villages and towns in the respective districts!. In the spirit of this letter, in 1922, the Commission on Toponyms of Greece issued a more detailed statement under the number 426!. This Commission had intensified its activities and was now giving concrete suggestions!. However, owing to the Graeco-Turkish War, the still undefined peace agreement with Turkey and also the great migrations of the population between Aegean Macedonia and Turkey and the forced movement of an estimated 33,000 Macedonians to Bulgaria (imposed by the Neuilly Convention, signed by Bulgaria and Greece, for "voluntary" resettlement) the process of renaming was slightly slowed down!. Thus in the period from 1918 to 1925 inclusive, 76 centres of population in Aegean Macedonia were renamed: in 1918 - one; in 1919 - two; in 1920 - two; in 1921 - two; in 1922 - eighteen; in 1923 - eighteen; in t924 - six and in 1925 - twenty-six!. But as soon as the processes of migration came to an end and the position of the state was strengthened, and, following the legislative orders of 17th September 1926, published in the "Government Gazette" N2 331, 21st September 1926, and the Decision of the Ministerial Council dated 10th November 1927, and published in the Government Gazette S2 287, 13th November 1927, the process of renaming the inhabited places was accelerated to an incredible degree!. Consequently, in the course of 1926, 440 places in the Aegean part of Macedonia were renamed: 149 in 1927, 835 and-in 1928, 212, i!.e!. in only three years , 1926, 1927 and 1928, 1,497 places in the Aegean part of Macedonia were renamed!. By the end of 1928 most of the centres of population in the Aegean part of Macedonia had been given new names, but the Greek state continued the process by a gradual perfection of the system of renaming, effected through new laws and new instructions!. On 3th March 1929 the special law known under its number, 4,096, was passed and published in the "Government Gazette" S-- 99 of 13th March 1929!. This law contained detailed instructions and directives as to the process of renaming places!. By the force of this law and the earlier instructions, amended by Law Ng 6,429 of 18th June 1935, Law S2 1418 of 22 November 1938, Law N2 697 of 4th December 1945 and many other instructions, legislative orders and other enactments, the process of renaming the inhabited areas has been carried on to this day, taking care of each and every geographical name of suspicious origin throughout Macedonia, including entirely insignificant places, all aimed at erasing any possible Slav trace from the Aegean part of Macedonia and from the whole of Greece!. With these laws, instructions and other enactments, the district commissions in charge of the change of place names and the Principal Commission at the Ministerial Council of Greece (established as early as 1909) enforced many more changes!. In the period from 1929 to 1940 inclusive, another 39 places in the Aegean part of Macedonia were renamed, and after World War II (up to 1979 inclusive) yet another 135 places in this part of Macedonia were renamed!. An estimated total of 1,666 cities, towns and villages were renamed in the Aegean part of Macedonia in the period from 1918 to 1970 inclusive!. This number does not include those inhabited places the renaming of which has not been announced in the "Government Gazette", which has been taken as the exclusive source for the figures and the dynamics of renaming given here by years and districts!. Neither does it include the numerous Macedonian settlements named after saints, the names of which official Greece simply translated from the Macedonian into the Greek language!.
Renamed centres of population in the Aegean part of Macedonia by district
1!. Ber - 49; 2!. Negush - 16; 3!. Greven - 82; 4!. Voden - 34; 5!. Enidzevardar - 56; 6!. Meglen - 48; 7!. Drama - 233; 8!. Kavala - 24; 9!. Pravishta - 36; 10!. Sari shaban - 38; 11!. Tasos - 3; 12!. Katerini 42; 13!. Kajlari - 32; 14!. Kozzani - 88; 15!. Naselichka - 72; 16!. Gumendze 29; 17!. Kukush - 179; 18!. Kostur 104; 19!. Lerin - 101; 20!. Valovishta 84; 21!. Zihneni - 20; 22!. Nigride - 35; 23 Ser - 55; 24!. Lagadin 76; 25!. Salonica - 78; 26!. Larigovo - 6; 27!. Halkidiki - 40; or a total of 1,666!.
Renamed places in the Aegean part of Macedonia by years
1918 - 1; 1919 - 2; 1920 - 2; 1922 - 19; 1923 - 18; 1924 - 6; 1925 - 26; 1926 - 440; 1927 - 835; 1928 - 212; 1929 - 9; 1930 - 7; 1932 - 6 1933 - 2; 1934 5; 1936 - 2; 1939 - 2; 1940 - 6; 1946 - 1; 1948 - 2; 1949 - 5; 1950 - 17; 1951 - 4; 1953 - 22; 1954 - 18; 1955 - 25; 1956 - 4; 1957 - 3; 1958 - 2; 1959 - 2; 1960 - 5; 1961 - 6; 1962 - 3; 1963 - 6; 1964 - 3; 1965 - 4; 1966 - 1; 1968 - 1; 1970 - 1; or a total of 1,646!.
We shall give just a few examples of renamed places, rivers, mountains, rivers, lakes and mountains: The town of Voden was renamed Edessa; Rupishta - Argos Orestikon; S'botska - Aridea; Postol - Pella; Libanovo - Eginion; Larigovo - Arnea; Ostrovo - Arnisa; Vrtikop - Skidra; Valovishta - Sidirokastron, and the small settlements of Barbesh and Kutlesh into Vergina!. The River Vardar was renamed Axios, the Bistrica - Alliakmon; the Galik - Erigon, etc!. Lake Ostrovsko became Limni Arnisis; Lake Gorchlivo (Bitterly Lake) became Pikrolimi, etc!. Mt!. Pijavica was renamed as Stratonikion; Grbovica on Mt!. Athos Agion Oros; Karakamen - Vermion, Kushnica - Pangeon, etc!. The Voden district became Nomos Pelis; Gumendze district - Eparhia Paeonis; Valovishta district - Eparhia Sindikis; Zihnenska ditrict - Eparhia Philidos; Pravishka district - Eparhia Pangeu, etc!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

-We don't change someone's name!. We say that we cannot accept a name (purely greek) that along witn other actions shows their irredentism against our country!. If they don't change it, they choose the isolation!. That's simple!. It may seem as blackmailing, but it is just an effort to have peace in the area!.
-FYROM is a temporary name!. FYROM and Greece agreed to accept both this name temporarily!.
-Our country (home) is also Macedonia, major part of Greece!. The country you describe is not Macedonia is Paeonia with a small part of Macedonia!.
-They are not Macedonians!. They just call themselves Macedonians!. Until 1940s they called themselves Bulgarians and slaughtered the Macedonians (greeks)!. That's history!.
-I have no problem if they wanna be macedonians, but if they accept this characterization it is equal to being Greek!. The same as the Epirots, the Thessalians, the Athenians, etc!. Macedonians are not a nation, but part of the greek nation, residing in the area of Macedonia!.

As for the names mantioned above they don't prove anything!. We call also Bitola Monastiri Ohrid Ochrida etc but we don"t claim them as greek cause that would be irredentism, although greek- and vlach-speaking populations lived in these areas for thousands of years!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

Ragzeus, I can not recognize you!. Thanks, buddy!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

What are you talking about!?

It is just a name!. Who cares!?Www@QuestionHome@Com