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Question:I am trying to found out if my dad is related to someone who died in 1963. I have ordered the mans birth certificate but will i also need his death certificate too. what info do they both give out? Will they say about any children they might have had or if they had brothers or sisters?


Best Answer - Chosen by Asker: I am trying to found out if my dad is related to someone who died in 1963. I have ordered the mans birth certificate but will i also need his death certificate too. what info do they both give out? Will they say about any children they might have had or if they had brothers or sisters?

Hello Michelle, if you would like me to do a search for any siblings your dad ? may have, you can email me and I will have a look to see what I can find for you.
Am I right in thinking that this is in relation to Joseph Turner and Mary Carmody ? . l would just need reminding of dates and places.
You can email me through my profile, I will email you back as soon as I have any information for you.
I think you might find it useful to contact the GRO, I have posted some links below for you to have a look at.
Adopted before 1975
If you were adopted before 12 November 1975 and live in England or Wales
If you were adopted before 12 November 1975 and live overseas
1. If you were adopted before 12 November 1975 and live in England or Wales
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/adopti...
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/adopti...
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/
I think it might be to your dads advantage to contact them.

You don't say where you are !
The birth cert will give his place and date of birth, his full name, his father's name, and his mother's maiden name, and their occupations.
His death cert. will give date of death, his name, his age, (sometimes estimated) why he died,
where he died and the name of the informant.
Neither of these will give you the names of any siblings or whether he had children, unless his wife was the informant at death, neither will you know if he was married. Sometimes the informant is a son or daughter, or other relative. So a death cert. can sometimes be useful for that reason.

Note. In England it is illegal to put a father's surname on a birth certificate, without the father's consent if the parents are not married. Just one of the reasons you sometimes see an obvious surname used as a Christian name.

Birth certificates usually only have the mother and father listed on them with the date of birth, state and place of birth i am not really sure about death certificates,

Nothing on both that will give you information you seek.
Try going on Friends United or Ancestry site to search
for relatives and Friends.

The birthe certificate will not give names of brothers and sisters.

It will give full name, date of birth, place of birth, full name of mother, full name of father, occupation of both.

The death certificate will give full name and address of person who died plus their date of birth and date and cause and place of death.

The only way to find out if your dad is related, ie brother, is to ensure that the name of the parents is the same on both birth certificates. However, if it is a common name this might not prove to be correct.

A good website to go on is either genesreunited co.uk or ancestry.co.uk. you may need to pay a fee to look at the birth records but this can be time consuming but worthwhile in the end.

Good luck!

No, any birth certificate will not have info relating to other children/ siblings. The only time you will find something remotely close, is on a child's certificate where it asks what number birth this is, regarding the mother.
Nor will the man's birth cert (or death cert) have info concerning your father. The only exception is going to be if your dad signed the death cert as informant, and from you not being sure if your dad IS related, sounds like that is not going to be the case either.
As for what is contained on those records.. being legal forms, it would ALL depend on the time and the place. The forms change, as legislated over the years. Both of them 'should' show the names of THAT persons parents/ birthplaces.. but even that is not guaranteed. Early certs were often very skimpy.. and pretty much just proved the birth took place and who the parents were. For some places that didn't have certificates, the info was registered in a book at the courthouse ..and I have seen where the name of the mother was not even entered.
Even today.. many women having children, who are not married, are refusing to enter the name of the father. Or they lie.. if dad is not there to dispute it. I am guessing that your father's birth certificate is one of these, and you have no proof of who his father is. If that is the case.. the alleged fathers records won't reflect what you need. At that point, it comes down to investigating in depth if grandma ever filed a law suit, such as for child support, or confirming that grandma married a (step) father, 2 yrs down the road.