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Question:I know he came over to N.Y. before Ellis Island started to keep records and I am not sure where in Russia he was from. HELP!

Best Answer - Chosen by Asker: I know he came over to N.Y. before Ellis Island started to keep records and I am not sure where in Russia he was from. HELP!

1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Louis Krall
[Louis Kroll]
Age in 1910: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Birthplace: Russia
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Russia
Mother's Birth Place: Russia
Spouse's Name: Fanny
Home in 1910: Manhattan Ward 17, New York, New York
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1890
Household Members: Name-- Age
Louis Krall-- 38
Fanny Krall-- 35
Nathan Krall-- 14
Samuel Krall --10
Ethel Krall-- 5/12 (5 mon.)

Name: Fanny Krall
[Fanny Kroll]
Age in 1910: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Birthplace: Russia
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Father's Birth Place: Russia
Mother's Birth Place: Russia
Spouse's Name: Louis
Home in 1910: Manhattan Ward 17, New York, New York
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Female
Year of Immigration: 1892

New York Petitions for Naturalization
Name: Louis Kroll
Naturalization Date: 6 May 1896
Former Nationality: Russian
Birth Date: 15 May 1872
Arrival Port: New York
Arrival Date: 5 Jan 1890
Title and Location of Court: U S District Court, New York, NY
Volume: 48
Record Number: 303-302
(On original view it showed:
OCCUPATION--News Dealer
ADDRESS--217 E. 66th St; New York City
WITNESS--Nathan Bendin (Insurance Agent; 412
W. 49th Street, NYC

Social Security Death Index (I don't know if this would be right because of the difference given in birth years):
Name: Louis Kroll
SSN: 055-01-4405
Last Residence: 07011 Clifton, Passaic, New Jersey, United States of America
Born: 22 Apr 1887 (it said 1872 above. )
Died: Aug 1986
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951 )

This is all I could find. Hope it helps.

If you can find him on the Social Security Death Index (at RootsWeb.com) then you can send for his original SS# application. That will give his birthplace and his parents' names. Good luck!

Your local library should have staff who are trained to help in this sort of thing. Good luck

I hope Wendy or Shirley can answer this for you as I do not know.

However, it is unlikely anyone that was living in 1890 would have a social security number, so he would not be on the social security death index. Social security numbers were established in 1935 and the system was officially in full effect in 1937. Even if he were born in 1890, that would make him 47 by 1937. Many people at that age in 1937 probably did not worry about applying for one. I take it, however, that he was probably a young man when he came here, meaning he would have likely been at least 67 by 1937, therefore, he definitely would most likely have not have applied for a number as he would likely not have qualified for any benefits when the system was brand new.

Even people who were born around or after 1937 will not always show up on the death index. Usually, only people who applied for benefits will show up, as their death has to be reported to social security to stop benefits.