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Position:Home>Genealogy> On the coat of arms for the Jones family I found this: COEFITUS MIHI VIRES. CanQuestion:My name isn't Jones; I'm doing this for some friends. Merci. Best Answer - Chosen by Asker: My name isn't Jones; I'm doing this for some friends. Merci. VERY loose translation (possible the originator didn't know Latin very well - as was often the case) would be Together we shall obtain land and power. VERY loose translation and assuming the "CO" of coefitus is used in the typical way meaning "together" and efitus should really be "effectus". BTW, you do know that this isn't the coat of arms for the Jones family. Coats of arms were granted to INDIVIDUALS, not families or surnames. This particular coat of arms would only be the coat of arms of that specific grantee (not his uncles, brothers or cousins that might bear his surname as well) and direct MALE descendants. ONLY! Not just someone with the surname. Addendum: Actually, it isn't dead - used scientifically and medically a lot because it is more definitive than most languages. BUT by that token, the two translations are not that different --- the problem is the word Coefitus which seems to be a mistake. Mihi translates basically to "me" but in relationship to the possessions that make "me"...such as land (normal usage). Vires translates to power AND ALSO strength (synonym for power??). So if you want to assume Coefitus is Caelitus - then My strength is from heaven is a good translation. If you want to assume Coefitus is the conjunction of the "Co" prefix with the root effectus, then Together we shall obtain land (possessions) and power is a good translation. Is either right?? Can't tell because both make assumptions of the word Coefitus - maybe there are more assumptions that can be made. But if the right words are used, Latin has less words that have multiple meanings than a lot of other languages - hence it is not dead. Coats of arms do not belong to surnames. They are granted to individuals who pass them on to their sons. Actually there are probably several that were granted to persons with the surname Jones. See the link below, one from the British College of Arms and the other from the most prestigious genealogical society in the United States, The National Genealogical Society. http://www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/Faq.ht... http://www.ngsgenealogy.org/comconsumerp... There are no laws in the U.S. regarding heraldy and there are merchants of deceit that take advantage of gullible Americans. People who have those tacky walnut plaques with a coat of arms on it on their den wall are just displaying one that happened to be granted to someone with their surname,and probably isn't any way related. That's all. In some countries, a person would risk prosecution for displaying a coat of arms without documented proof they are entitled to it. I've found a Latin translation for "Caelitus mihi Vires," which means, "My strength is from Heaven." Check your spelling of "coefitus." I found this information for you, Jones Asgre lan diogel ei phercen A good conscience is the best shield Jones Da a fydd God will come Jones Deo adjuvante God aiding Jones Deum cole, regem serva Worship God, revere the king Jones Deus fortitudo mea God is my strength Jones Deus pascit corvos God feeds the ravens Jones Esto sol testis Let the sun be witness Jones Frangas non flectes Thou may’st break, but shalt not bend me Jones Heb Dduw heb ddim, Duw a digon Without God without anything, God is enough Jones Heb nefol nerth, nid sicr saeth Without heavenly aid no arrow is sure Jones Integritate et fortitudine By integrity and bravery Jones Look to the past Look to the past Jones Marte et arte By valour and skill Jones Mors mihi lucrum Death is gain to me Jones Netherlands Netherlands Jones Nil desperandum Never despair Jones Pawb yn ol ei arfer Every one after his custom Jones Pro patria et rege For my country and king Jones Sine numine nihilum Nothing without the divinity Jones Spe posteri temporis In hope of the latter time Jones Till then thus Till then thus Jones Vince malum bono Overcome evil by good Jones Virtutis pr?mium felicitas Happiness the reward of virtue Jones Dum spiro c?lestia spero While I have breath I hope heavenly things http://www.heraldryclipart.com/m.html I don't know whether this is of any use to you but there are lots of names on there to choose from. Hope it helps. |