A chair is in a room. if I leave the room, is the chair still there?

Question: A chair is in a room!. if I leave the room, is the chair still there!?

2: Both me and you see a chair, prove that it exists!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

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You are studying my dear!. It does physically exist but to prove it you would have to reenter the room, have someone stay in the room, in the chair, have some type of phone or walkie talkie or something to keep in contact and let that person know that "yes" indeed the chair is still there when you leave the room!.
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No!. Now, I want you to give me your address, and I'm going to come over, and then when you leave, I'll go into your house and steal everything, and you shouldn't care because since you're not there none of your stuff exists!.

Existence can't be proven!. Proof is a process of logic!. You have to assume that something exists before logic can enter the picture!. A proof assumes the existence of the objects in premises!. "Aristotle is a man, all men are mortal, therefore Aristotle is a mortal" assumes the existence of Aristotle and of men; it doesn't proof that either of those exist, and they can't logically be proven to exist!. So you can't prove that the chair exists even if you're there in the room with it!. Logically, it could be a hallucination!. Your knowledge of the chair's existence is based on your experience of it, not on any kind of strictly logical process!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

1) If a tree falls and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound!?
The way I look at it is - if you have a memory of the chair being in that room, then yes it is there!. If you don't remember there ever being a chair, then no - it is gone!.

2) We are both looking at a chair!. We can both take turns sitting on it!. We could both say it's made of wood and held together by nails and glue!. But we cannot prove its existence!. We can both perceive the same chair, but we could be seeing the same illusion!. The chair doesn't exist!. Our need for a chair, for a seat, does!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

1!. Yes--the chair is there, whether you can physically sense it or not!. You are the one who is not in the room and so the chair cannot be guaranteed to stay in the room because the force of some other animated being could move it!.
2!. Well, first of all "Both you and I"
then, the real question is whether you are existing, and once you can confirm that, you can get on with the chair problem!. If the chair did not exist, then we would not exist, so all of this would be a dream!. you didn't leave it up to me to prove we are really standing in front of a chair, but I'll try to explain!. If I can see you, and you have seen me and we are in the room and on the Earth and I know the existence of my life and my thoughts and vice versa, we are real!. P!.S!. I kind of like this little conversation with a computer: http://www!.jabberwacky!.com/j2convbydate-!.!.!.
anyway, once we have prooved that we are who we are, then we can proceed to the chair!. Is any of our senses telling us that there is no chair!? Can there be a chair if we do not see it!? Of course, but eventually we shall bump into it or have some other unfortunate accident!. Can there be a chair we do not hear!? Very possibly, since most chairs do not make a noise unless someone is, or has been recently, sitting on one!. Eventually though, the chair will make a noise!.Can there be a noiseless, invisible chair which we cannot feel!? There is no such chair!. Any object that does resemble that description has no purpose in being a chair!. Therefore, we can conclude that the object before is is a chair!. Www@QuestionHome@Com

The second question first!.

Existence is a tricky concept, and so far not proved; perhaps not provable!.Even Descartes' famous "I think, therefore I am" has a gaping hole in it: since it starts with the word "I" (in the Latin original implicit in the conjugated verb "cogito") it assumes what it sets out to prove!. This circular reasoning is invalid!. Again, even if we rest on the Latin and deny the immanence of "ego" in the verb, the logic of the "proof" depends on the assumption, which Descartes never even addresses, that every verb (or in practical not linguistic terms, every event) must have a subject (or actor)!. This may be a valid assumption, but it needs examination and demonstration before another step can be based on it!.

The datum that two people experience the same space-time event is equally difficult to discuss!. Since we only experience what is in our consciousness, and this is at best unreliable (how often do we stumble on a step that 'isn't there' or mislay things!?) I cannot be sure even that you exist outside my perception, and your perception is at least one step further from anything I can call certainty!.

In fact we have now arrived at your first question, and (of course) at Bishop Berkeley!. According to the good Bishop, we can only know our own experience, which is located in our own mind!. Unobserved objects, for him, have no reality!. The tree in the quad ceases to exist when all the students and professors have gone to bed - which provoked Newman to provide a limerick in reply:

Dear sir, your reasoning's odd;
When there's no-one about in the quad,
It is clear that the tree
DOES continue to be,
Since observed by, yours faithfully, God!.

God is not a part of my perceptions (and so does not exist!) - but I still wish I had written that limerick!.

P!.S!.
Nice one, Dex!. If Schrodinger's cat is fighting another tom, and no-one is listening, do they make a noise!?Www@QuestionHome@Com

Schrodingers cat would be sitting on it, but yes, it would exist!.

Why!?

Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can only be transformed!.

If you leave the room, and the energy in the chair doesn't leave with you, ergo, there is a chair in the room!.

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You were in the room, you saw the chair, and if you do not subscribe to other philosophical answers, some which may deny the existence of the chair in the room when you leave it, then the chair will still be there when you leave the room!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

I'm still in here with the chair!. Yup, it's still here, shore-nuff is!. Come on back in and I'll give you a candy bar! :-)Www@QuestionHome@Com

It may or may not still be there!. Anyone could come inside the room and remove it after we both leave!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

Only if you have the ability to know that it's there, but us humans don't have such abilities!. Www@QuestionHome@Com

Is the room there!?
Are you all there!?Www@QuestionHome@Com

It's there unless it followed you out of the room!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

you can't tell coz you left the room so you cant know if it's still thereWww@QuestionHome@Com

chairs dont exist their in animate objects

if its their its their

if you can touch it or sit on it then its thereWww@QuestionHome@Com

sure it's there!. but as soon as you leave it gets up and starts clowning behind your back!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

Who cares!? It's all in the mind anyway!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

leave your web cam on in the room!.!. press record!.!. and you will see the truth!.!.Www@QuestionHome@Com