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been worded: Atheists, is the absence of proof of a purpose for the universe proof of the absence of a creator!.Www@QuestionHome@Com


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Purpose is whatever you choose it to be!. If your parents had you for the purpose as a companion or organ donor for your elder sibling, it doesn't prevent you from choosing your own goals in life!.

Likewise if Gods or Aliens who seeded our planet with life we may never know the reasons why!. One theory is that we were made as company for a lonely God!. Another is that our universe needs people capable of space travel to fir lasers into black hole to make designer baby universes!.

Others say it is all chance!.

If it is all just purposeless chance then no matter I enjoy life and find my own meanings or callings!.

We do not need a God to have a purpose in life!.

In the Soviet Union the state used to choose careers for people thus allocating purpose of their life!. In some ways this was more comforting than the western practice of letting individuals find their own calling!.

Those in the West who seek a more ordered and certain existence, may choose religion and follow their (or their priest's) idea of God's plan!.

Following a set plan in your life is a little like an arranged marriage!. Whether you marry for love, money or duty their will always be rocky times and the success of the marriage will likely result from what commitment and effort you put into the relationship!.

Likewise, if you believe strongly in your calling you will more likely achieve your quests!. Belief in your worthiness will likely determine your level of success!. If believing in God or fate or whatever gives you, the confidence to take the opportunities life brings then your belief has pragmatic benefits!. Www@QuestionHome@Com

"Atheists, is the absence of proof of a purpose for the universe proof of the absence of a creator!."

"A" creator!? Of course not, not in itself!. But it IS proof of the absence of a creator-god who made the universe for a purpose, and wanted us to know what that purpose was!. Believers like to say that "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence!." Well actually, it is, when you actually specify what qualities your god is supposed to have!. You can then look at the world around you and determine whether it looks like it should if it were created by a god with those qualities!.

For instance, let's say your god is supposed to be both omnipotent (all-powerful) and omnibenevolent (all-good)!. In such a case, there should be no evil in the world, because this god supposedly has both the power and the desire to eliminate evil!. So if there is a god, then either he is not one, or the other, or either!. The existence of a god who is both omnipotent and omnibenevolent is simply incompatible with the existence of evil, period!.

One can make a similar argument about a perfect god!. If he were perfect, then he should be incapable of making an imperfect creation, since doing so is itself an imperfect act!. But the world is chock full of imperfections, like aging, accidents, genetic diseases, politicians ;-) etc!. Ergo, either god is imperfect, or doesn't exist!.

In other words, whenever one makes non-trivial statements about their god, that is a testable hypothesis!. And most of the time, the evidence (i!.e!. the real world) does not support the existence of such a being!.

Furthermore, believers are being very selective when they state that "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence!." Does this then mean that they should believe in faeries, Bigfoot, and alien abductions!? Not to mention the thousands of other gods like Osiris, Vishnu, Cocopele, Zeus, Krishna, Ra, Apollo, Loki, Allah, etc!. who also all have exactly zero evidence to support their existence!?
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As a believer there is no absence of proof of a higher power creator!.

What interests me is that Atheists have the time and consciousness to figure out that there is no God Why trouble them selves with something that they don't think is in existence!. Why is there even the word Athieists!? I sure don't have time to discuss stuff that doesn't even exixt!. Thus, they might think God might be there so they stand firm that he doesn't!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

There's a saying that i want to share!.!. "Emancipation from bondage of the soil is no freedom for the tree"
The question is now if the tree is aware on how much it depends on the soil!.!.!.
We have to remember that human reasoning and thinking is limited, however vast, but we are not aware of the extent of its limitation!.
The so called proof that we put forth in argument of one point or the other is also limited!.!.!.!. ( since our reasoning is limited)
looking at it the other way, no one can reason the presence or absense of GOD since it is his spirit that we feel!.!.!.
The atheist therefore (no offense) is unable to go beyond logical reasoning to look into the substance of his being!.!.!.!.!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

God has unique ability to be above everything including believers and disbelievers!. He offering fair solution for both parties!.There is no way to prove his existence!. So far no one succeeded!. Presence of churches, religions, believers disbelievers does not offer substantial proof of presence/absence of God!. Those, mentioned claim only their presence and in most cases deny beliefs one of another!.!.!.Speaking of belief!. Disbelief is another form of BELIEF which creates !. Clashes of beliefs well known forms of Godlessness, where people hurt each other, kill each other in the name of their own beliefs!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

"What interests me is that Atheists have the time and consciousness to figure out that there is no God Why trouble them selves with something that they don't think is in existence!. Why is there even the word Athieists!? I sure don't have time to discuss stuff that doesn't even exixt!. Thus, they might think God might be there so they stand firm that he doesn't!."

Think of God as one of many possible answers to a question that is fundamental to our consciousness!. Choosing not to believe in God is as much a part of the Atheist's core philosophy as belief in God is for a person of faith!. The existence of God is not the question, it's only one possible answer!.

The "question", of course, is purpose!. We all feel the need to answer this question for ourselves!. And the answer is different for each and every one of us!.

It is for this reason that debating the existence of God is a fruitless endeavor!. The existence of God is irrelevant - or rather I should say that the existence (or non-existence) of God is relevant only to the individual!. How you define the purpose for your existence is what makes you who you are, and this is a question that we all must answer for ourselves!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

I'm not an atheist but I would like to take a second to share my ideas!. It seems to me that you are asking is it just because we don't see a reason for all this proof there is no GOD!? well to that I say no!. I don't think that it is enough to rule out the possibility that the thing that created us is smarter than us and has a purpose for us we just can't comprehend it!. My current theory is that we are GOD's entertainment!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

That would be a logical fallacy!. The absence of purpose does not mean the absence of a creator!. However, the purposely creator is not consistent with how most people think of God!.
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absence of cannot prove something!.

that's why absence of being able to disprove god or heaven or hell exist in an experiment does not prove that they do!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

!.!.!.hmmm, only shows how a non atheists thinks!.!.!.

!.!.!.live your own lifestyle and be responsible for your thoughts, words, deeds and actions!.!.!.

!.!.!.this is Y!A!.!.!.and everybody has an opinion!.!.!.good luck!.!.!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

Absence of proof is never proof of absence!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

no!. f*ck your purpose, the universe doesnt give two sh*ts about any stupid purpose us little creatures could ponder up in our little brains on this little rock we call home!. Www@QuestionHome@Com

Whatever way you word it, we are all entitled to our own opinion, right or wrong, unless it is life or death!Www@QuestionHome@Com

uhh!.!.!.no

the absence of proof is proof of nothingWww@QuestionHome@Com

then why is it that most so called atheist when confronted with a life threatening situation say god help me now!?Www@QuestionHome@Com

I'd have to proof read your data!.Www@QuestionHome@Com