Have both science and politics been completely split-off from their father...phi

Question:Those in the fields of science and politics think so, but they're wrong. All human endeavors rely upon philosophy.

Best Answer - Chosen by Asker: Those in the fields of science and politics think so, but they're wrong. All human endeavors rely upon philosophy.

I think, I can see where 'Politics, Science and Philosophy' can be "Associated".

As all are, "SUPPOSEDLY" in search of 'Knowledge'. However, I put it to you, that the only Knowledge that any Political Party is concerned with, is. "Staying In Power", and it doesn't matter how much 'Lying, Misbeguilling, Stealing, Killing or Destruction'.

They do, or cause to be done under some rather questionable parameters. Their Sole 'AIM', is to stay in office and that means they don't want people to have any knowledge.

So that they, can start questioning the 'Political Amiguity' that leads to so much 'WANTON DESTUCTION'

Apparently this whole family has run into problems. Old Man Cosmology is screwing around with the String kids; Theology, who was the original matriarch of the entire family appears to have died, and Mathematics, the primal, important Patriarch, from which all were created, can't seem to form a simple syllogism anymore.

I'm afraid we're stuck with praying to the old picture on the mantle. His name was Father Logic...poor soul, long gone, but to whom we owe our entire racial human history...

Care to elaborate? As far as I can tell, aside from a few esoteric interpretations of quantum mechanics, science has always stuck to its guns in terms of its core ideals. Philosophers could learn a thing or two from their prodigal son as you believe science to be. Why not hold your theories up to the light of reality and see if they're actually true? Think about all the technologies that have been created since the industrial revolution. Now, how are you guys getting on with that problem of free will? Oh, you haven't made any progress whatsoever since the question was first posed...I see.

Also, saying politics is rooted in philosophy is just wrong. When did politics begin? Probably around the time the first people on earth started forming living communities. When did political philosophy as a discipline begin? Some 100+ thousand years later.

EDIT: It doesn't work like that, people. You can't just make a sweeping gesture with your arm and say, "philosophy hereby lays claim to all of this". It's the epitome of baseless arrogance to see elements of your area of interest in a wide range of subjects and then just rarefying that observation to say that your area of interest is the very foundation of those subjects.

Yes. After Galileo, physics began to ignore traditional metaphysics. Physics has its own metaphysicians and cosmologists, and scoffs at the traditional.

"It is not the special sciences that teach man to think; it is philosophy that lays down the epistemological criteria of all special sciences.
Introduction to Objectivist Epistemology, 104

The same statement can be made about politics. The complaint about the current political parties can be identified as politicians who know nothing about "political philosophy."

The Founders of America were the last generation of the men of the Renaissance. They studied the old Liberal Arts, the Trivium and the Quadrivium. We need to get back to something like that.