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Question:No randomness = predestination.


Best Answer - Chosen by Asker: No randomness = predestination.

My will is not random, it is an organising force.
There is nothing truly random on the macrocosmic Newtonian level, perhaps, but it's all made up of quantum uncertainty on the subatomic level. Electrons wink in and out of existence and jump through space/time, appearing where they "probably" are when they need to be there.
The world appears to be orderly, while it's parts don't even exist.

Basically, you are right. Who says there is no randomness in the universe, except the religious, who have to invert complex rationales to explain how God can predetermine, yet leave room for free will?

It would mean that we're puppets in a drama. And the concept of free will merely basic to the plot.

Lightning strikes from the ground up. A tube of electricity shoots into the sky and then the light travels down it.

We are traveling down a pre-created tube.

So the actions we see in the present are not free will. But with meditation and self awareness you can create the tube.

Predestination is a concept built and kept alive by people by who don't understand the truth fully.

God DOES NOT, predestine anything, or else how can he hold us responsible for our actions/deeds if everything was predestined.

When God created the first human, he produced more than just a body with a brain. Further, God did not create Adam and Eve to be mindless robots. He implanted in them the faculty of free will. And that was a fine gift, for "God saw everything he had made and, look! it was very good." (Genesis 1:31) Yes, "perfect is his activity." (Deuteronomy 32:4) All of us appreciate this gift of free will because we do not want all our thoughts and actions dictated to us without ever having a choice in anything.

However, was the fine gift of free will to be used without limits? God's Word answers: "Be as free people, and yet holding your freedom, not as a blind for badness, but as slaves of God." (1 Peter 2:16) For the common good, there must be boundaries. Hence, free will was to be regulated by the rule of law. Otherwise, anarchy would result.

Whose law was to determine the proper limits of freedom? The answer to this question has to do with the fundamental reason why God has permitted suffering. Since God created humans, he knows best what laws they need to obey for their own good and for the good of others. The Bible puts it this way: "I, Jehovah, am your God, the One teaching you to benefit yourself, the One causing you to tread in the way in which you should walk."—Isaiah 48:17.

God made mankind subject to his physical laws, such as the law of gravity. Similarly, he made humans to be subject to his moral laws, which are designed to result in a harmonious society. For good reason, then, God's Word urges: "Trust in Jehovah with all your heart and do not lean upon your own understanding."—Proverbs 3:5.

Therefore we are free to choose to do what we want. But we should also be ready to accept the consequences of our actions.

If we do something bad, although we are exercising free will. That inherently does not make it good. So we must use our free will responsibly and in accordance to God's moral standards as set forth in his written word.

Excellent queston. I choose to believe we are the masters of our own destiny. I also like Stephen Hawkings ideas regarding string theory and the prospect of other dimensions...somewhere, all be it on another plain, I am all that I choose to be...!! I am no intellect and perhaps am ignorant of all the dynamics required to answer your question but I can not believe that all aspects of MY life are presestined as some claim. We DO have free will and as such determine our own paths.

You have an invalid, out of jurisdiction argument. Randomness is just the lack of knowledge of an event within the physical universe. Free will, thought, behavior and intention is not a part of the physical universe but a spiritual issue that is outside of the domain of causality. Thus, free will does exist for you and others to only postulate its existance. Q.E.D.