There is no HeII?

Question:God is defined as a being that is all good, all knowing, and all powerful. Human beings supposedly have free will. If we have free will, then God cannot be all knowing because he wouldn't know what our choices would be before we made them. Now if this is true, then he cannot be all knowing, and therefore cannot be all good (because he does not know the consequences of all his actions) and not all powerful (because knowledge is power). And so therefore God is not really God.

Now if God IS all knowing, that must mean that he knows what we'll do before we do it. And if that is the case then those decisions have already been made by someone other than ourselves. In which case we cannot be held responsible for our actions since they were not our decisions. And so if God is all good then he could not possibly send us to hell for things we had no control over.

Take your time to digest.

Best Answer - Chosen by Asker: God is defined as a being that is all good, all knowing, and all powerful. Human beings supposedly have free will. If we have free will, then God cannot be all knowing because he wouldn't know what our choices would be before we made them. Now if this is true, then he cannot be all knowing, and therefore cannot be all good (because he does not know the consequences of all his actions) and not all powerful (because knowledge is power). And so therefore God is not really God.

Now if God IS all knowing, that must mean that he knows what we'll do before we do it. And if that is the case then those decisions have already been made by someone other than ourselves. In which case we cannot be held responsible for our actions since they were not our decisions. And so if God is all good then he could not possibly send us to hell for things we had no control over.

Take your time to digest.

Nice logic. One thing. Why does God have to be all knowing and all powerful to be God? Can't he/she/it just be way way way more powerful and knowledgeable than us. My dog probably thinks I am magical and all powerful. I am compared to him. After all I can have bologna any time I want. That is amazing to him. Just because I am all powerful to a dog does not make me all powerful in reality. By the way there is a hell. It is called Earth where souls are in constant torment.

correct God is not all good, but he is just.

there is no god.

We are all little pebbles rolling down a hill. Some go left, some right, some get stuck along the sides. Whatever,...the only thing that is certain is that we will end somewhere. God just lets the pebbles roll. In the end, we are all in the same place anyway.

I hope your right.

You don't know what your talking about.

of course there is no hell... walmart bought it in the mid 90′s and established a new store in it′s place... lol....

no really... nice thinking up there... but still, believe me.. God Knows everything...

"Human beings supposedly have free will. If we have free will, then God cannot be all knowing because he wouldn't know what our choices would be before we made them" - you..

ok.. God knows your choices... he isn′t the one that chooses, but knows every single damn choice you can make, and the results that will come from it...

so... be afraid... and continue to use your free will... you may end up lost in walmart...

There is a difference between being all knowing and influencing a decision. For instance, even if I am all knowing about the Iraq War (which I am not)... and even if I know the future, I still will probably not be able to influence the future. Therefore, the actual foreseen action is not mine (or God's). The concept behind decision is that even if God knows, he still leaves YOU the option... or the decision. I would imagine that God posses some hope that those visions of his that are of sin will not come true, or maybe he sees the options and only has a hunch about which one we will take.
In all, trying to understand God is too complicated.

Your reasoning is intrinsically flawed. Having free will is a given. Just because God is aware of which choice we will make does not alter our ability to make that choice. It only means God knows us better than we know ourselves. Think of it as sort like how your mother knows pretty much what you'll do, if she's being honest with herself, and keeping her ego out of it, just dealing with a objective as possible knowledge of your prior acts, expressed opinions, and the options before you.
Next, God does not send us to Hell. We make the same free will choice to accept his forgiveness and grace or not. Therefore, we choose Hell, when we are capable of choosing Heaven and God's blessings.
God is really God. Full stop. Your argument is somewhat interesting, and has been made before, but still does not hold up.

hell is a state of mind, not a place'', in my humble opioin''.

wrong, God gave us free will & also another chance to make a decision to do right or wrong. so u can change your decision to do the right thing or make the same mistake twice!

There is no god, God is the creation of the human mind to explain problems we dont understand.

What if God is not all good, knowing, or powerful? You assume it is true that if God is all knowing and knew our actions beforehand, that is proof that we are not responsible for our actions. Then you must also believe that time acts in a linear fashion, and if the future can be foretold it must be scripted.
What if time is not linear, but multi-dimensional? Our perception of time is limited by our current interaction with it. Even as we see something happen, it has taken time for light to travel to our eyes, or eyes send that information to our brain, and our brain to recognize the event. Therefore we are always seeing things after they have happened.
If God has a 'better view or position ' in the space-time continuum, God could preview events of free will.

May-be it means a place where you can't fish?