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Question:Three other questions:

If Christ died for the sins of man, wouldn't he have also died for the sin of not acknowledging him as lord and savior? Therefore, wouldn't everyone be saved regardless of whether or not they asked to be?

Why are some atheists kinder and more loving than some Christians?

If there was a kind, loving, moral atheist like Antony Flew, wouldn't God accept him into heaven because he was a good person without hope of reward and fear of punishment? (excuse the fact that Flew is a deist)

(answer as many questions as you want)


Best Answer - Chosen by Asker: Three other questions:

If Christ died for the sins of man, wouldn't he have also died for the sin of not acknowledging him as lord and savior? Therefore, wouldn't everyone be saved regardless of whether or not they asked to be?

Why are some atheists kinder and more loving than some Christians?

If there was a kind, loving, moral atheist like Antony Flew, wouldn't God accept him into heaven because he was a good person without hope of reward and fear of punishment? (excuse the fact that Flew is a deist)

(answer as many questions as you want)

1) America is the free country, my friend. It's not THAT crime infested, in some places. And it's not a Christian nation, Americans believe whatever they wish to believe. Japan is a very strictly-lawed nation. And they're not necessarily Atheist.

2) I don't know how to answer this question. I'm not Christian, and I don't want to offend anyone with my lack of knowledge in this field.

3) Religion usually doesn't have anything to do with their personalities. Muslims are nice. Christians are nice. Catholics are nice. Everyone SHOULD be nice, and your religion just depends on what you believe.

4) If there was a God, of course. I don't know who Antony Flew is, but if he is truely as you describe him, then according to basic Christian beliefs, he should be accepted into heaven; if there were such a place. I am speaking as an onlooker from the sidelines. Shouldn't it not matter if he does not believe in God? Unless in the bible, it says 'thou shalt have shame cast upon thee and thrown into hell for all eternity for not conceding God's existence as truth,' which I doubt. True Christianity most PROBABLY will overlook that he is an Atheist. Afterlife is a question unanswered, but it all depends on what you believe.



You are probably trying to prove Atheists are better than Christians. Don't. You're merely striking a catalyst into the ground for religion discrimination and argumentation. This is another reason why war and hate occur in the world much too often; because people just can't accept other people as they are... being too narrow-minded and ignorant. So you're Christian, you're agnostic, and you're a Buddhist. So what? Great, good for ya'll. Just don't bother others, and be nice. That's all everyone is asking for...

I'll answer your first question.

This observation would seem to suggest that many crimes have religion figuring somewhere into the motive. Perhaps we should ask professionals to look into this...

USA a christian nation??? hahhahahahahahahhahaa
its only the title thats all.

First of all because there are less people in
Japan than in America. It's only obvious that
where there are more people, crimes will be more.

Then, there are many more religious sects and cults in America than in Japan. Religion is no guarantee of exemption of crimes in a nation. The opposite is proved to be true.

Jesus did not die for the sins of anybody. Jesus was Jewish and he knew that's against Judaism for a man to die for another.

1)crime can be attributed to fear... and some religious idea seem to promote that.

2)I'd guess so, I think we have free will for a reason. to choose for ourselves. the consequences are in the actions themselves.

3)because religion has nothing to do with what kind of person you are.

4)if there is a god(I'm not saying one way or the other), I would think so. because he was both good, and exercised his will to choose for himself what to believe.

It has nothing to do with religion. It has to do with the punishment. Look and see how strict those nations are. I bet you will soon find your answer there. If you steal something they cut off your hand. I don't know about you, but I think that would make me not steal.

Your premise is faulty. What makes a nation "christian" or "atheist" and what makes it more or less "crime-infested" are completely different, but often interrelated. Communist nations, for example, as nationally atheistic and the former soviet block has remained largely atheist after the fall of the soviet union. Atheism was promoted so that there would be no central church to challenge the central authority. Russia and many other former soviet nations are incredibly crime ridden. The crime is there because of the poverty that partly caused the collapse and the chaos that followed the collapse.

There are nations that are predominantly Christian, predominantly Muslim, predominantly atheist, Hindu, Jewish, Buddhist, or many other beliefs. Sometimes the crime rates in those nations is related to the same cause as the dominant belief systems, sometimes its relatively independent. i don't think it's fare to draw any such conclusions.

1. Japan isn't exactly atheist. It's just more secular. They also seem to like laws more than we do (they don't J-walk, for example.)
2. Most moderate christians believe that God accepts almost everyone. Many denominations such as unitarians believe that God accepts everybody.
3. I think that there is an assumption that christians are automatically nicer than everyone else, so atheists are held to higher standards and thus have to be nicer.
4. see my answer to point two.

I believe the premise of your first question is flawed. Not having a culture steeped in Judeo-Christian morality is not the same as being atheist.

Another factor behind Japan's low crime rate might be that it has the most stringent gun-control laws of any democracy. (See the History Channel.) What's more, the Japanese culture is geared more toward conformity than expressing individuality.

Regarding questions 2 and 4: At least since Vatican II, it's been the position of the Roman Catholic Church that God may have a mechanism through which people who did accept His son may get into Heaven. Since we don't know what those provisions are, believers are urged to act accordingly.

As far your third question: Why not ask why some basketball players are better athletes than some baseball players? It's true that some Christians don't always give ample evidence of the fruit of the Holy Spirit, but being a follower of Christ is frequently more of a process than an instant transformation.

Thats a lot of questions:

1. I don't think its possible to solely isolate religion as a factor of criminality. Things like social status, population, punitive measures, and other things must be considered. For what I understand, japan is a relatively homogenous country with serious norms fixated on putting the group before the individual.

2. There's a strain of Christian thought called Universalism (not to be confused with unitarian universalism) that believes such in effect. The problem though is that you are essentially saved against your will. Whether or not this is morally good is a serious question I dont think I could answer.

3. People differ. I think C.S. Lewis compared them to factories. One factory is spotless and perfect, the other barely works at all. But when a person comes in to work on both, you cant measure the improvement in regards to the other, you have to measure it from itself. A cranky mean christian who over time slowly becomes kinder is improving, even if he still falls behind the example of someone blessed with a kind nature to start.

4. I honestly don't know. I think most christians do hope this is the case, and tend to rely on God's mercy more than his justice, despite the hellfire talk that tends to be the noisiest. However, if the whole point of being saved isnt that we are immoral, but that we are lost, morality wont be the judge. It will be finding the right path. In any case, I don't think anyone but God could answer that.

Seems to me that your questions are a direct challenge to fundamentalist Christians. If so, you'd probably be better off putting it in the religion category.

1. Your point here being that fundie Christians tend to believe that since theirs is the only true religion, they're more moral than other people. So since Christianity is the religion of by far the most people in the US, why is America so full of crime compared to countries where there are very few Christians? I suppose they might say that a very large number of people claiming to be Christians aren't true Christians, but you'd think they'd still have the edge over the outright heathens, if Christianity was the only true religion.

2. This is clever, dude, very clever! But I think your logic is a little faulty. The Christian position is that the fact that Christ died for the sins of man means that you have the potential to be forgiven and saved, not that you automatically are. So yes, Christ died for the sin of not believing, but you still have to believe in order to get saved.

3. This is similar to #1. I can't see the FCs admitting that an atheist could be more moral than a TRUE Christian.

4. Obviously, the FCs believe it's not enough just to be moral.