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Question: True of false, the major role in defeating german in WW2 was soviet union not usa!?
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True!. The mass of the German army was on the Eastern front!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

Hitler's first movement was in May of 1933, when he signed a peace treaty with Russia, the German-Soviet Nonaggression Pact that "guaranteed" that the two countries would not attack each other!. On May 17, Hitler withdrew Germany from the League of Nations, and announced to the world that he would be building up his military and began his massive youth training program that would later be so prominent in propaganda films!. He also began to send out foreign branches of the SS to lobby for support from the 27 million German speaking people outside of Germany!. These branches instigated nationalist movements in Saar, Danzig and Austria that usually ended with the Nazi party seizing the parliament or beginning some sort of violent action against the government!. In January of 1934 Hitler signed a non-aggression pact with Poland in order to enhance the "blitzkrieg" effect (attacking quickly and effectively) when the war actually began!.

In 1935, the massive rearmament of Germany began!. German spending on armaments rose from under 2 billion reichsmarks in 1933 to 16 billion reichsmarks in 1938-39!. By 1939, Hitler finally had control of both the army and the foreign service, allowing him to do with them as a pleased!.

On August 23, 1939, in his last movement before the war, Hitler signed a peace treaty with Stalin!. This peace treaty was not to last, though, as Hitler planned to invade the whole of Russia after the land in the west was secured!.

The war proper began when the Germans invaded Poland!. Due to their previous treaty, Poland was taken completely by surprise and was overrun in four weeks!. The Germans attacked from three different directions: East Prussia, Promeriana and Slovakia, taking the British and French by surprise, as they were expecting the Poles to at least hold out until the winter!. If they had not been taken by surprise, the Allied forces would have been able to attack Germany while they were preoccupied with Poland!. On September 19, 1939, the Red Army also marched into Poland, also taking Poland by surprise as the Poles originally thought they were a relief force!. The day after Russia entered Poland, Warsaw surrendered under massive bombardment!. At the same time, Germany and Russia signed a peace treaty allotting the Polish land between them!.

With the invasion of Poland, the Allied forces declared war on Germany and the Axis forces!. Eventually, the main Allied forces would consist of Great Britain, France, the United States, China, and after Hitler broke his treaty, the Soviet Union!. The Soviet forces ended up inflicting over 80% of the casualties in Hitler's armies!. The main Axis forces consisted of Germany, Japan, and Italy, but Germany's Allies at times became more of a hindrance than a help!.

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True!. Only because Hitlers forces were trapped in fighting Soviet Union in the eastern front, Allied forces were able to manage on the wester front!. Please note that by this time, almost entire western Europe but for Britain was either nuetral or with Nazis!. US assistance came only after this and only helped to fight effectively against Nazis in the western front!. Had not the eastern front weakened Hitler, never could have he be beaten by Allies, as they would have fought with more than twice the resources, which with they actually fought WW2!.

Hence, the fact is the major credit of defeating Nazis (who were not the real representatives of the German nation) should be given to USSR and not USA!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

False, the major role in defeating the Germans was a combined effort that would go more to the British Empire (Yep, I'm saying the British Empire, not just the British as I'm including the British and all their colonies who provided soldiers for the fight against Germany) than either the US or Russia!. How near did Britain actually come to possibly being defeated without ever demanding a second front be opened to take the heat off them and allow them the chance to recuperate a little and then properly fight back!? Guess what, the Soviet Union had been Germany's ally at the start of the war but when Hitler stabbed Stalin in the back with the German invasion of Russia the heat was taken off Britain and yet Britain didn't sit back and relax!.

Oh, lend-lease helped Britain to keep fighting while Soviets were able to fight without any aid you say!? Nope, after the Soviet Union became one of the Allies the US extended lend-lease to the Soviets as well!. This allowed Soviet industry a little breathing room, the chance to properly be able to keep up with the heavy demand!. When you're being hammered and hammered hard your industry has a demand that it can have a difficulty keeping up with!. But when you're getting an influx of supplies from outside that gives your industry the space it needs to keep up with the demand!. And the Soviets needed that influx as much as the British after they'd unexpectedly, unknowingly, and unwillingly taken the heat off Britian!.

Could the Soviets have won the war all by themselves!? No!. Stalin kept demanding that a second front be opened!. He knew the Soviets couldn't do it by themselves even though he would never admit as much!. If you truely think you can win without any serious assistance you don't demand your allies open a second front to take the pressue off you!. And even then he did not actually realize how much the fighting in Africa was already helping him!. Just imagine what would have happened had Germany not sent any troops to Africa!. But there were troops there, and Britain was keeping them there, forcing Rommel to demand the supplies he desperately needed to properly fight the war in North Africa but never recieved!. Had he recieved the troops and supplies he needed, he might have been able to Route the British forces and open a second front in the Soviet Union from the south!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

true, the soviet army was quicker to reach Berlin, and it is widely known that the German invasion of the soviet union was the countdown of declination of the German army!. the cold weather, the high population, and the ammunition factories, are three things for the rise of the soviet army over the German army!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

The Soviet Union, especially since Glasnost, has completely exposed Stalin as an inept leader!. He had shot almost all of his generals in the 1930s!. This is the reason why"the mighty" Soviets strugggled so against Finland at the start of the war!.

In World War II Stalin was warned by Great Britain and the United States that an invasion from Germany was coming, but he got completely caught off guard!. Stalin, no good student of military tactics, did not let his generals act as they wanted!. It was amazing how much territory Germany took in its initial attack, for example, 600,000 at Kiev!. Hitler caused the heavy losses; he defeated himself!. Soviet military blunders have been ignored so far by answerers!. Losing men does not win wars, hence the Confederacy being crushed by the Union,

also, a couple of items have been left out by answerers!. How about the D-Day invasion!? This allied attack broke the Germans' back!. They also had to spend valuable resources on their Fortress Europe, which ultimately failed to stop it!. The inept Stalin wanted an invasion in 1942 or 1943, which would have been a disaster!. But really all this Soviet monster wanted was to save himself, even a too early invasion that would have to been certain to fail!.

Then Hitler's Battle of the Bulge put almost all the pressure on the West, allowing the Soviets to have a cakewalk in the East they would not have otherwise had!.

Then our far, far superior industrial production; was fantastic; by itself probably decided the war!. We gave billions and billions of dollars in Lend-Lease aid to the Soviets that was vital!. People forget the Soviet Union might have been more industrialized under Stalin but the exterminations and purges, including the Kulaks produced an economy then that has been overrated!. It was not even close to being decisive as the United States's was In World War II
also, before we give too much credence to the Mother Russia baloney, Great Brtain deserves great credit!. The RAF greatly hurt the Luftwaffe!. Then being an island, it remained a much more difficult obstacle to attack than the Communist by its English Channel!.

So in consideration of the facts, answer: FALSE
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I realize this is supposedly a discussion of the role of the Soviet Union compared with the role of the USA in the defeat of Germany in WW2, and I don't pretend to have a great deal of knowledge about the subject!. However, I'm shocked to read statements like the US faced Japan "all by itself"!. The US remained neutral, they didn't enter the war, until Pearl Harbour!. Yes, the USSR lost 11 million men in the war!. Canada had a total population of little more than 11 million!. She declared war on Germany a week later than Britain and France, and sent more than one million soldiers, sailors and airmen to fight in Europe and in the Pacific Theatre, to say nothing of Canada's merchant navy which supported the war effort from Day 1!. And did the other Commonwealth nations sit by!? I do hope we're only being "lumped in" with the British and not totally discounted!.

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~Common sense should tell you the answer to this one!. The USA never tasted German steel until November, 1942, by which time the USSR had already repelled Barbarossa and were in the midst of Stalingrad, Moscow and Leningrad - all of which the Red Army won - resoundingly!.

The US started by going after Vichy French troops who were expected to, and did lay down their arms and switch sides!. Then they helped the Brits and Aussies spend months chasing down a second rate German General (yeah, I mean Rommel) all across Africa!. Rommel was a German afterthought and the Afrika Korps was a thrown together unit shoved into battle only because the Italians couldn't fight!. Rommel had poorly trained, poorly equipped troops and all of his reserves, best weapons, spares and replacements were diverted to the Russian front!. Patton and company had all they could do to take him out!.

Ah, then the glorious invasion of Sicily!. While that was going on, the Red Army was facing a few million of Wehrmacht elite - still at Leningrad, Stalingrad and Moscow!. When the US and Brits (and Canadians, New Zealanders and Aussies) finally made it to Italy, the Red Army was winning the war at Kursk and Smolensk!. The Germans had 190,000 second rate troops with little equipment in Italy but 850,000 at Kursk and 825,000 more at Smolensk (having lost more than that many of their very best over the previous few months along the Volga at Leningrad and Moscow)!.

Okay, Italy surrenders, as expected, and switches sides, as was typical of Caesar's offspring!. The Western allies sit on their thumbs and watch the Red Army destroy Army Group South and push what was left of Army Group Center and Army Group North back across the Polish frontier!. Time to make a move!. D-Day, Normandy!. The largest amphibious landing in history takes on undermanned, under-equipped, poorly trained reserves in France!. Of the 350,000 Wehrmacht troops available to meet the invasion, half are not released into the battle!. The D-Day losses of the Brits, Yanks and Canucks on that first crucial day are equal to Red Army losses over almost 6 hours of Operation Mars!.

Wow, the US is fighting in the Pacific!. Of course, the Asian war was a land battle decided in China and Indochina (where the US never appeared other than when FDR was violating his claimed neutrality and sending in troops to help Mao and Ho Chi Minh - which were two of the primary reasons the Japanese went after Pearl Harbor in the first place!. The Naval war certainly helped bring about the defeat of the Rising Sun, but the real war was on land and had been in progress for 10 years before Pearl!. But for FDR's neutrality violations and provocations, the Naval war would not have happened!. It did take tremendous pressure off of the Viet Minh (the allies FDR stabbed in the back at Yalta and Tehran, thereby sowing the seeds for the Vietnam War) and the Chinese, though!.

Lets look at casualties (KIA only - including wounded missing and captured is even more disproportionate )!.

Soviet Union: 10,000,000 plus 15 million civilians
Germany 3,250,000 (about 75% on the Eastern Front) plus
3!.8 Million civilians, pretty much equally divided
between those killed by the Nazis, those who died
along the eastern front and those who died as a
result of indiscriminate bombing by USA, RAF, RCAF
of civilian targets (Dresden comes to mind)!.
China: 1,350,000 plus 10 Million civilians
Japan: 1,500,000 plus 1 Million civilians (mostly to US
bombing after Japan started to request peace (and
about 200,000 of whom bought it at Hiroshima and
Nagasaki after Ike, MacArthur, Nimitz and others
recommended that the bombs not be used because
they were not necessary and would not save US
lives)
Poland: 850,000 plus 6 Million civilians (about half of whom
were Jews, representing half of the Jews killed by
the Nazis and less than 1/3 of persons killed in the
camps)
Yugoslavia: 300,000 plus 1!.5 Million civilians
Great Britain: 326,000, plus 62,000 civilians (the buzz bombs and
V-2s were not all that effective!.
USA: 295,000 (including the Pacific, Europe and Africa)
plus 68 civilians killed at Pearl harbor and a few
thousand US civilians and POWs killed by Little Boy
at Hiroshima!.
Canada: 42,000!.
Australia: 39,000!.
True, casualties don't necessarily equate with victory or loss!. But the late entry into the war by the US, the easy targets the US took on, the depleted status of the Wehrmacht when Uncle Sam finally got involved and the fact that all prime German resources, troops, equipment, leadership, weapons and spare parts were sent to the Russian Front makes those numbers all the more telling!.Stalin begged Churchill and FDR to open a second front in Europe in 1941!. Churchill told FDR that the only power on earth that could take on the Germans in a war on the continent and hope to survive (forget win) was the Red Army!. FDR was smart enough to understand the obvious truth of that statement!. The US, a year later, landed in Africa!. By the time Overlord came around in June, '44, the outcome of the war had been decided for more than a year and it was just a matter of time before the T-34s rolled into Berlin!.

Yes, the USSR got about 10% of the lend lease aid!. The lion's share went to Great Britain!. The Soviets didn't need it!. As far as weapons were concerned, the Soviets didn't want it!. They had far better planes, far better artillery and far better tanks than anything in the US arsenal!. Aid that went to them was in the form of consumer goods and food!. They did get fleets of trucks, which they needed!. Their factories were turning out armaments and the US trucks aided their depleted transport system!. The Soviets would have still survived and won without lend lease!. Great Britain would have been brought to her knees without it!.

Oh, you wanted true or false!. Sorry!. Go with True!.

Sorry knight, I'll go with the facts and the historical record rather than regurgitate the chauvinistic mythology and John Wayne!. The Brits were beat!. The Soviets repelled Barbarossa and determined the outcome all by themselves!. Check into what limited stuff they got from lend lease!. FDR wasn't about to beef up an enemy, even if he was an ally!. Nothing was going to stop Zhukov from crossing the Oder and FDR and Churchill knew it as well as Hitler did!. Normandy was launched when it no longer mattered so the US and UK would have some say in what post-war Europe would look like, but the Nazis were already dead!. They just hadn't laid down yet!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

False, it was a combined effort!. The Germans almost reached Moscow which suggests they might have been able to go much further if they didn't have to worry about fighting a two front war!. It makes you wonder how effective the Red Army was other than slowing down the German forces if they were almost able to reach their capital!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

I would saw true!.

The USSR took the brunt of the punishment, 25M people lost; but that would also mean they inflicted the greatest losses upon the Germans!. (Germany lost 7M - not sure if this counts Holocaust victims, but most Holocaust victims weren't German!.) Truman's noted for saying in Congress that US should delay going into war, so that Nazis and Communists could kill as many as possible!.

Much is made of US's material aid to the Russians!. But though helpful, this made up only about 10% of the Russian military budget
(the U!.S!. spent 1!.2 trillion $, USSR a quarter of this), much of which was a LOAN!. And some of it was of doubtful quality!. Some of the help was of doubtful quality - The 7000 Sherman tanks were far worse than the Russian T34s; which were taller, wider, better-armoured, less likely to!.!.!.catch fire!. (!) The Russians especially liked the trucks, though, the food, and the cotton!. Still, about half of this material aid came thru Vladivostok in the Pacific; which indicates the US had to seriously humble Japan before she could help the USSR!. So, that the US's help was really crucial to the USSR is questionable!.

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If you grew up in the USSR, that's what you were told, but if either side had not been a front, German would have won!. The Soviets used Soviet, Ukraine and Pole peoples as cannon fodder practically, because they didn't have the military infrastructure, nor the American assistance!. Www@QuestionHome@Com

True, they sacrificed more, but remember we were also fighting the Japanese and Italians, and the USSR was not!. Www@QuestionHome@Com

True!. They lost 11 million people fighting the Germans!. They also had the highest production, and the best overall tanks!. Www@QuestionHome@Com

The USSR took the brunt of the German push - the most soldiers and so on!. And they had the heaviest casualties, partly due to Russian military doctrine that accepts large battle losses!.
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True!.

One of the major reasons was the Russian winter on the Eastern Front!.
The same problem Napoleon had!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

Somewhat true

But US played a important role, too


Besides, US faced Japan all by itself






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True, but it was the United States that kept the red army supplied!. Www@QuestionHome@Com

TRUE!.!.without the red army amercia might have lost that warWww@QuestionHome@Com

FalseWww@QuestionHome@Com