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Question: Adolf Hitler, was he really responsible for the killings!?
Now calm down and hear me out please!. I know what he said in public and I know what he said in his book but what I want to know is this!.!. Is there any "actual evidence" that he specifically gave orders to wipe out the Jews!?

Could it be that he "never" gave an order but that his subordinates, Himmler, Heydrich and so on, were the ones who instructed the building of the death camps because they wanted to please Hitler so much!?

In a court of law here in the year 2008, would we be able to provide enough evidence that he ordered the killings, I mean real evidence, not circumstantial!. Could we prove beyond "all reasonable doubt" that he was responsible!?

Remember it is not enough to just say "of course he knew what was going on"!. Can we prove it!?Www@QuestionHome@Com


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You cannot find one single document signed by Hitler saying "hey let's get rid of the Jews"!. I am talking about what he ordered, on paper, not what he said!. However, if you look at the memoirs of Himmler and diary notes of Goebbels, without leaving an ounce of doubt, they talks about how their Führer ordered the "final solution" to the Jewish question!. If you talk about courts, then yes, Hitler would have been punished today you don't have to have a document to prove that he was involved in various extermination projects!. If you want "actual evidence" I say NO!. Yes there are reports of him allegedly saying how they should get rid of all the Jews and his quotes on eugenics, but still, it is different to say something and to actuallu order it!.

(No, I'm not a holocaust denier)

also I'd like to add another thing, if I was the advocate for the devil, I'd even say that Hitler wasn't even aware of what was going on!. Think like this, you sit with your teacher in a classroom and he teaches you stuff that isn't on the curriculum!. How much control does the head master have over the teacher when he is sitting in his office!? How much can the head master protect you from being misinformed by the teacher!?Www@QuestionHome@Com

In cases of law where you do not have a witness or a signed confession, you then weigh up all the evidence!. In the case of Hitler the evidence goes all the way back to 1918 when lying blinded in a hospital bed Germany surrendered!. From that day on he would blame the Jews for "the stab in the back", and swore to deliver revenge for the German nation!. Since then he wrote and spoke of ridding the world of international jewry!.

Because their is no "smoking gun" does not mean Hitler had nothing to do with the Holocaust!. Hitler was responsible for what men went into what positions!. Himmler, Heydrich and Eickmann may have came up with the idea for the final soloution, but all probability points to Hitler being the puppet master allowing them automomy in this area!.
Ther are no real alternatives that would not involve Hitler!.

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There is, unfortunately, no evidence like a written order which could prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Hitler ordered the killings!. That by itself would not mean that he cannot be held responsible for them!. There is enough incontrovertible evidence that he would have should have known and could have know about the killings and if he wanted to could have stopped them at any time!. Incidentally, the International Court in The Hague has a similar problem now with Karadic, the Serbian guy who is responsible for the genocide in Yugoslavia!. Perpetrators of Genocide do not give orders in writing but there usually is enough evidence around to put them away for good, without leaving any reasonable doubt!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

As said in your first answer buck does stop with the boss, i don't know about the evidence i would have to research that, but he knew full well about it when he was creating the camps, and the killings were not just in the camps but the everyday ones, ordered by him, even if he had not instructed the final solution to happen, he incited the hatred, encouraged them to please him, and knew full well what he wanted to happen!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

There is circumstantial evidence that Hitler did not know about the endlosung for example a private message to his justice minister in 1944 stressing that the solution to "the jewish problem" had to be delayed until after the war- the liquidation of the mentally ill was carried out without his knowledge!. Kristalnacht was started without his authorisation and when told H flew into a rage and ordered the violence to cease!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

Yes we can!.
Hitler gave direct and explict instructions to his subordinates in a the following ways - Mein Kampf (there's no mistaking the intent in this badly written pile of____)
Kristallnacht - again the intent is there for all to see!.
We have telephone transcripts between Himmler and Hitler which again show that Hitler both knew about the Holocaust, and that he therefore must approve!.
We have diary entries from Goebbles which are explicit about Hitler knowing about the Holocaust!.
http://www!.holocaust-history!.org/hitler-!.!.!.


Try reading Lucy Davidowicz's excellent The War Against the Jews and The Holocaust and the Historians
http://www!.nizkor!.org/hweb/people/i/irvi!.!.!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

No, it was Hitler!. but just for the sake of argument, lets say it was his subordinates, if that were true, and it was also true that Hitler did not want the jews killed, then he could of stopped it!. And seeing as he did not stop it, then he must have ordered it, pure logic there!.*Www@QuestionHome@Com

Had Hitler lived, mountains of documents would of been presented at the Nuremberg Trials that would of convicted him!. These same documents were used to convict members of his inner circle, who even testified they were following Hitlers orders, and presented proof!. However it was the view of the courts that "followings orders" was no excuse of war crimes!.!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

The policy of mass murder was Hitler's idea and done on Hitler's orders!. He was an absolute dictator!. Although his underlings had a certain amount of latitude about how they went about the business of wiping out a significant proportion of the population, they could not have done so except on Hitler's orders!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

Surviving transcripts from Hitler's meetings (his so-called 'table talk') show he knew: "It is good when terror precedes us that we are exterminating the Jews"!. He is therefore totaly culpable and guilty - by his own admission!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

yes but this is a sensitive subject you are wise to ask it online we can prove it but somtimes to look in to things like this whould open you up to the demonic
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I think Hitler ordered it, but if he didn't he still had the power to stop it!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

Don't get clever to deny Holocaust!. Www@QuestionHome@Com

The buck stops with the bossWww@QuestionHome@Com

you f!.u!.c!.king pratWww@QuestionHome@Com

No one has ever found a memo along the lines of "I order the extermination of the Jewish population of Europe: signed A!. Hitler", but the Nazi regime was strongly antisemitic almost from the moment it took power in 1933!. The extermination camps were simply the ultimate conclusion of long-term policies!. If there ever was such a document it was probably destroyed just before the German surrender!.

I personally find it inconceivable that Hitler did not at minimum allow the Holocaust to proceed, in full knowledge of what it would entail, even if someone like Himmler was responsible for the detailed planning and execution of the policy!. As head of the Nazi state the ultimate responsibility was his!.

There was also a practice called Fuhrerprinzip in Germany at the time!. Essentially this meant that senior officials were expected to carry out policies or actions, on their own initiative, that would accord with the stated or implied wishes of the Fuhrer!. Reinhardt Heydrich supposedly invoked this at the Wannsee Conference, as part of his argument for securing the co-operation of the civilian organisations needed to carry out the policy!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

hello

there are no written orders signed by hitler ordering the extermination of jews etc, but its known that he had private weekly sessions with himmler regarding the concentration camps

but there are many speeches where he made his policy quite clear :-

In Hitler's speech of January 30, 1939, he said:
Today I want to be a prophet once more: If international finance Jewry inside and outside of Europe should succeed once more in plunging nations into another world war, the consequence will not be the Bolshevization of the earth and thereby the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe!.

In September, 1942, Hitler recalled:
In my Reichstag speech of September 1, 1939 , I have spoken of two things: first, that now that the war has been forced upon us, no array of weapons and no passage of time will bring us to defeat, and second, that if Jewry should plot another world war in order to exterminate the Aryan peoples in Europe, it would not be the Aryan peoples which would be exterminated but Jewry!.

At a public speech in Munich, November 8, 1942, Hitler told his audience:-
You will recall the session of the Reichstag during which I declared: If Jewry should imagine that it could bring about an international world war to exterminate the European races, the result will not be the extermination of the European races, but the extermination of Jewry in Europe!. People always laughed about me as a prophet!. Of those who laughed then, countless numbers no longer laugh today, and those who still laugh now will perhaps no longer laugh a short time from now!. This realization will spread beyond Europe throughout the entire world!. International Jewry will be recognized in its full demonic peril; we National Socialists will see to that!.

From his earliest political ramblings to the final Goetterdammerung, Hitler had it in for the Jews!. On April 12, 1922, in a Munich speech later published in the Voelkischer Beobachter, he told his audience :
The Jew is the ferment of the decomposition of people!. This means that it is in the nature of the Jew to destroy, and he must destroy, because he lacks altogether any idea of working for the common good!. He possesses certain characteristics given to him by nature and he never can rid himself of those characteristics!. The Jew is harmful to us!.

Proof enough that he was a demented , hateful person who verbally made his policies well known !Www@QuestionHome@Com

there is surprisingly little evidence to connect hitler's office to the final solution!.however,he oversaw eichmann's command of the "jewish problem" and with it the delegation to heinrich himmler and the individual camp commandants!.
he was not present at the wannsee conference nor did he have much to do with it but it was his authority that passed the policy of mass extermination as of june 1941!.
the short answer is no,he did not concern himself with what we now know as the holocaust,certainly not on a day to day basis!.
there are certain details which seem to give holocaust deniers and revisionists free reign but the simple fact is that hitler was top of the triangle and the ultimate responsibility must lie with him!.
you might call it guilt by association but am i convinced he knew of the concentration camp regimes !?, no!.
but then that's because he was busier with the war effort!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

I believe he didnt say Kill the jews but he ordered "The Final Solution" Which meant get rids of Jews, Jehovah witnesses, Homosexuals, Communists, Mentally impaired individuals !. He thought of all this while he was in prison and was helped to think this was by fellow prisoners who had propaganda against jews and had deformed jewish cartoons stealing and insinuating that they were defiling the beautiful bonde german superior ladies!.At first he basically tried to get the Jews to leave voluntarily by taking away their rights and make their life a living hell!. Then it wasnt happening fast enough so he made these work camps then death camps!. So his televised speeches, his book of mein kempf and other docs should be proof enoughWww@QuestionHome@Com