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I am having great difficulty in finding a Shelby Gilmore Gregory born June 24 1884 Hartsville Tennessee!. I can find him in the 1910 census,and further , but not before, nor can I find any birth records,or his death and marriage record!. Married to Julia 1902!.
also cannot find his son Alvin,Odell,Gregory (b: 1903,Davidson,Tennessee) ; marriage record to Mary,Margaret Dunlap in Tennessee

Your help would be greatly appreciated!.Www@QuestionHome@Com


Best Answer - Chosen by Asker:
I found a marriage record that looks like he started celebrating before he told the clerk what his name was:

Groom: Schell Gregory
Bride: Julia Lend Simons
Date: 16 Jan 1902
County: Sumner

Tennessee State Marriages, 1780-2002!. Nashville, TN, USA: Tennessee State Library and Archives

There are two more:

Schell, Gregory to Lenn Simons on 16 Jan 1902 in Sumner
Schell, Gregory to Julia Leno Simon on 16 Jan 1902 in Sumner

It looks like this data base has different records for different possible spellings!.


I can't find his son's marriage record!.

I found one possibility in 1900 by using "Gil*" for a given name and two by using "Shel*" - the asterisk means wild card - and a 5-year range on the birth year!.

Gilliam Gregory was the closest!. I couldn't find him in 1920 or 1930!. I hoped he'd have an aged parent or a brother living with him!. Without a second point of reference, ther's no way to prove or disprove Gilliam is him!.

We lost our 1890 census in a fire!. He was born after the 1880!. 1900 is your only hope!.

This Julia Simon matches the one married to Shelby in 1910!. They are both born within a year of 1889!.

1900: Civil District 11, Macon, Tennessee; Roll: T623 1586;
Page: 7B; Enumeration District: 41!.

Nigel Simon 42
Iowson Simon 40
Katie Simon 16
Joe Simon 13
Julia Simon 11
Ada Simon 7
Annie Simon 1

If this Julia and the one in the marriage record are the same one, she was married at age 13 or 14!. That isn't unheard of, but it is suspiciously young!. Your Julia is 21 in 1910 and Shelby's eldest child is 7!. Could Alvin be a child by a previous marriage or affair!?Www@QuestionHome@Com

Florida Death Index, 1877-1998
about Shelby Gilmore Gregory
Name: Shelby Gilmore Gregory
Death Date: Oct 1961
County of Death: Pasco
State of Death: Florida
Race: White
Gender: Male

!.S!. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
about Shelby Gilmore Gregory
Name: Shelby Gilmore Gregory
Birth Date: 24 Jun 1886
RESIDENCE: Chicot, Arkansas
Birth: Hartsville, Tennessee
Race: White
Roll: WW2_2281297

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Shelby Gilmore Gregory
Name: Shelby Gilmore Gregory
City: Not Stated
County: Sumner
State: Tennessee
Birth Date: 24 Jun 1884
Race: White
Roll: 1877695
DraftBoard: 0

I think this may be your Shelby!. The transcription comes from reading a census written in a tight scrawling handwriting!. When you look at the original, it could very well be Shelby!. It's also in Trousdale Co and the family members are all the right ages!.

1900 United States Federal Census
about Sheley Gregory
Name: Sheley Gregory
Home in 1900: Civil District 2, Trousdale, Tennessee
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Birthplace: Tennessee
Relationship to head-of-house: Son
Father's Name: Brice
Mother's Name: Martha
Race: White
Occupation: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Brice Gregory 31
Martha Gregory 29
Sheley Gregory 13
Maggie E Gregory 11
Thomas Gregory 9
Ruthie Gregory 8
Lesley Gregory 6
Florence Gregory 4
Ethie Gregory 3
Billy Gregory 1Www@QuestionHome@Com

Do you have any other clues!? Sibling or parent names!?

This could be them in the 1920 census!.
Name: Alvin Gregory
Home in 1920: Civil District 14, Sumner, Tennessee
Age: 17 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1903
Birthplace: Tennessee
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's Name: Shell
Father's Birth Place: Tennessee
Mother's Name: Julie
Mother's Birth Place: Tennessee
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Sex: Male


Household Members: Name Age
Shell Gregory 34
Julie Gregory 31
Alvin Gregory 17
Lanie Gregory 13

And this in the TN marriages 1926:
Name: Alvin Gregory
Spouse: Mary Harrison
Marriage Date: 28 Mar 1926
Marriage County: Sumner
Marriage State: TennesseeWww@QuestionHome@Com

www!.ancestry!.com--U!.S!. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
Name: Shelby Gilmore Gregory
Birth Date: 24 Jun 1886
RESIDENCE: Chicot, Arkansas
Birth: Hartsville, Tennessee
Race: White
Roll: WW2_2281297

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
Name: Shelby Gilmore Gregory
City: Not Stated
County: Sumner
State: Tennessee
Birth Date: 24 Jun 1884
Race: White
Roll: 1877695
DraftBoard: 0
Age: 34
Address: South Tunnel; Sumner, Tenn!.
Occupation: self-employed farmer
Nearest Relative: Mrs!. Julia Gregory--South Tunnel; Sumner, Tennessee (born abt 1889 ,Tennessee)
Height/Build: Medium (for both)
Color of eyes: Brown
Color of hair: Dark

Florida Death Index, 1877-1998
Name: Shelby Gilmore Gregory
Death Date: Oct 1961 (would have been 77)
County of Death: Pasco
State of Death: Florida
Race: White
Gender: Male

Family trees:
Alvin Odell Gregory
Birth: abt 1903 ,Davidson,Tennessee,
Death:
Married: 1928 in Tennessee
Mary Margaret Dunlap (Parents: Unknown & Manda, b!. abt 1865 ,North Dakota )
Mary's Birth: abt 1904 , Tennessee
Children:
Paul Bauman Gregory Sr-- M--b!. 18 Jul 1929 in Nashville, Tenn!.
1920--Alvin was Farm Labourer on Father's Farm in Tennessee

Marriage : 1928, Tennessee
Alvin Odell Gregory & Mary Margaret Dunlap

Alvin Odell Gregory--Occupation in 1930: HOUSE PAINTER,
Davidson, Tennessee

Social Security Death Index:
ALVIN GREGORY
Born: 07 Feb 1903
Died: Jun 1974
Last residence: Nashville, Davidson, TN 37206
Number--414-05-1587


Discovered why you can't find Shelby & Julia's marriage record: Hartsville, Tenn!. is in Trousdale County!. According to the ancestry!.com database, "Tennessee State Marriages, 1780-2002", they have these years early in the 1900's-- starts with 1897 and then goes to1904,1905, etc!. And, for son Alvin's 1928 marriage, the years jump from 1887 to 1971 in Davidson county!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

I was able to find Alvin O Gregory in the 1930 Census!. He is listed as 27 years old, born in Tennessee, parents both born in Tennessee!. His occupation is listed as house painter!. He was 25 years old when he was first married!. Enumerated with him are his wife, Margaret (age 26) and one son, Paul B (age 9 months)!. They are living in Davidson County, Tennessee!.

If you would like a copy of this original record, please let me know!.

Hope that helps!Www@QuestionHome@Com

Hmm!.!.!. try www!.ancestry!.com

or http://www!.census!.gov/ but i'm sure you already checked this one out b/c its census data!.

good luck!Www@QuestionHome@Com