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Question:Among them are Charlemagne, Heinrich King of the Germans, Robert I King of France, and Bernard King of Italy.

Is there any way to get this verified?


Best Answer - Chosen by Asker: Among them are Charlemagne, Heinrich King of the Germans, Robert I King of France, and Bernard King of Italy.

Is there any way to get this verified?

I'm guessing that you've found a tree or two on the Internet...? Unfortunately online "user-submitted trees" are notoriously unreliable! In fact, at familysearch.org they have a disclaimer saying that their trees are not verified for accuracy and "Reader Beware! more or less.

Also, some folks purposely "fudge" the data in order to have "noble" trees (like back to Charlemagne, etc.) People have been doing this for a long time, too -- so you could find a tree created in the 1800s for example, that is pretty much a complete fabrication -- its just been passed down for 150 years so it seems true.

You would need to check each parentage/generation against documented original records (birth, marriage, land, court, death, etc. etc.) or reliable extracts if the originals aren't available (I'm guessing access to records back to Charlemagne would not be available to you!)

If you find a tree with NO sources listed, run far, far away FAST!

On the other hand, if you have found trees researched, thoroughly documented and created by a REPUTABLE professional genealogist or genealogical or history society (the New England Historic Genealogical Society, for example) then you can have more confidence in its results. I would trust a tree published by the New England Historic Genealogical Society BUT even professional genealogists make mistakes.

The only way to truly find your ancestry is to learn how to do so CORRECTLY and trace it yourself with reliable records! It will take years, but, come on, it's a great hobby -- give it a try!

please, take no offense at the way I word this...
When you ask "is there a way to get this verified?", the translation is that YOU have not traced this. Someone else (supposedly) has, and you are looking at their conclusions.
My commentary (from going on 30 yrs experience) is that something unverified is not researched at all. The entire concept of genealogy is finding proof of a relationship.. anywhere along the line.
I am not at all saying that the file you find, is wrong. I am saying, that you have no way of being sure.
Let's say this is 12 generations back, for the sake of discussion. 5 generations back (per this file) Robert Smith and Mary Jones are the parents of Anna Smith, who is your known and proven ancestor. Let's go one step further.. and had someone used good research.. they might have learned that Anna was in FACT, a daughter of Robert's brother James Smith, who married Sarah Johnson. Assume for one moment that Mary Jones is REALLY proven to descent from Charlemagne... but Mary isn't the mother to Anna. Sarah Johnson is.
One error can make that kind of difference. All of the above is analogy, to explain what I am saying.
YOUR first goal is to know that you have solid documentation, one step at a time, back from you. Every time that you locate independent records, to confirm your own work... you learn about the standards of records, and how to verify.
At some point, you will come to where you WILL see disputed conclusions. At that point.. you start questioning the source(s) for information, to determine if you feel the quality is good. Be aware.. the fact that 50 people claim one fact to be "it".. does not make it a fact. Sadly, if an error is posted online today, it takes maybe 1 month before 48 people have COPIED that file, without verifying, and spread it like a virus. I have personally seen this happen.
Normally, it is best to accept other research when you can SEE that they have already indicated that their conclusion comes from a certain record.. ie John's will, filed in St Louis, Missouri in 1873. Don't throw the file out.. but it isn't your research, either. Hold it aside, until you have some way to go through and see if there are sources for the info.
Many of the early lines (such as those you mention) date back so far, that there are few documents to prove either way. Those are the files to be extremely careful about accepting.
And, by the way.. the LDS church encourages members to submit their research, for purposes of Church ordinance work (sacraments). The Church itself does not do the research, or verify that it is right. It is generally known that many of these files are less than perfect. I used to volunteer at an LDS family history center, even though I am not a Church member.

70% - 80% of the people in the world with English, BeNeLux, French and German ancestors are supposed to be able to trace back to Chalemagne. Most of us do it through an illigetimate child of some king or other.

People lied about their parents. If grandpa was a b@stard in the true meaning of the word, it is easier to think of him as the offspring of nobility than as the by-product of a roll in the hay with a strapping stable lad with curly hair.

No, there isn't any way to verify your lineage (or anyone else's, save pehaps the Emperor of Japan) back that far.

The volunteers at my FHC tell me the AF is about 75% accurate and the IGI abou 85%. Which 25% and 15% is false is the hard part.