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Question:My grandfather Andrew Clarence Jones Sr. received a check from somewhere until he died in 1964. Social security doesn't show a social security number on the records. there was a welfare system in place that was funded by the state and partly by federal government. I have all census info on my grandparents from 1900 to 1930. I know they lived in Simsboro and Ruston Louisiana from early 1940 until death in 1964. If they received a Old Age Assistance check there has to be an application somewhere that may provide info as to my great grand parents idenitiy. All family records were destroyed in 1980's. For some unknown reason none of my uncle's and aunt's would discuss family history. By finding Great Grandfathers name it could open up tons of info.
Andrew Clarence Jones Sr, wife Levie Buchanan Jones born in Alabama in 1862-70, in 1910 they were in Ovett, MS, 1920 Simsboro,La and 1930 Manghum, LA. Children, Howard Butler, Sadie, Dolphus, Andrew Clarence Jr., Butler , Dollie and Elsie.


Best Answer - Chosen by Asker: My grandfather Andrew Clarence Jones Sr. received a check from somewhere until he died in 1964. Social security doesn't show a social security number on the records. there was a welfare system in place that was funded by the state and partly by federal government. I have all census info on my grandparents from 1900 to 1930. I know they lived in Simsboro and Ruston Louisiana from early 1940 until death in 1964. If they received a Old Age Assistance check there has to be an application somewhere that may provide info as to my great grand parents idenitiy. All family records were destroyed in 1980's. For some unknown reason none of my uncle's and aunt's would discuss family history. By finding Great Grandfathers name it could open up tons of info.
Andrew Clarence Jones Sr, wife Levie Buchanan Jones born in Alabama in 1862-70, in 1910 they were in Ovett, MS, 1920 Simsboro,La and 1930 Manghum, LA. Children, Howard Butler, Sadie, Dolphus, Andrew Clarence Jr., Butler , Dollie and Elsie.

So, let's back up a bit... if he died in 1964, was there not a death certificate issued? The section for his parents names may be blank, if the children/ informants did not know that. It should still give a more explicit date of birth, and likely place. Presumably, his burial was handled by an undertaker, who MAY still have records. If he was born prior to 1880, you should be able to find him in that census, even if he was already married by 1900. Sadly, the 1890 census was lost, but 1900 includes place of birth for HIS parents, even if it does not have the names.
From your posting so far, I am guessing that you have not gotten the death certificate itself. We all try to keep cost down, and use alternate records if we can, but this may not be possible for you. The date is critical.
Names of his children will not be of much help.. if you know of any SIBLINGS, that could open things up.
I would also ask (again) re social security. I used the ss death index, and wasn't able to find him.. but that is not uncommon, especially if a different name (A.C. maybe) was used at death. I am skeptical that he did not have a social security number in 1964. It would not surprise me for social security staff to say they could not find the info, since their focus is not genealogy, and they often will not make the effort. The fact that he may not have gotten a check from them, doesn't mean he did not have a number, and an application file. You may be correct.. but I am skeptical.
"There has to be an application somewhere" is comment that I disagree with. A local agency is more likely to have disposed of such records. If it does not exist, you HAVE to work with what is there.
I don't envy you working with a Jones, and that time frame is difficult enough that I personally call it the "1890 hump". If both he and Levie were born prior to 1880, then they should be findable. The 1900 census should also include number of years married, which gives you a frame to look for a marriage record (and hopefully, his/her family may be in that neighborhood).
If you don't have their death certificates, that is the priority.