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Question:Just like buis....my grandma's surname they are supposedly "native american" but they're just too light-skinned to be native american...My grandmama looks mulatto....so once again any info would be great!


Best Answer - Chosen by Asker: Just like buis....my grandma's surname they are supposedly "native american" but they're just too light-skinned to be native american...My grandmama looks mulatto....so once again any info would be great!

The same process applies to this side of the family, as your Buis ancestry... you MUST work with specific names/dates/places, and surnames only as an incidental tag by which you can find the right persons.
http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-b...
Here is the search page for the social security death index...
HOWEVER... look to the bottom where it says advanced search, and use the last name with the state. Don't limit the county or city, since family may have died elsewhere.
Birth date is CRITICAL for you... you need birth and death certificates, but also must determine those who were born pre 1930. This is the most recent census open to research.
EACH of your ancestors are unique, as to the exact records findable.
Surnames are misleading, especially for your situation.

Cloud
English: topographic name for someone who lived near an outcrop or hill, from Old English clud ‘rock’ (only later used to denote vapor formations in the sky).
French: from the Germanic personal name Hlodald, composed of the elements hlod ‘famous’, ‘clear’ + wald ‘rule’, which was borne by a saint and bishop of the 6th century.
Dictionary of American Family Names, Oxford University

Hope this helps.

If you are now 80, your grandmother bore your father when she was 40 and he had you when he was 60 (with a chambermaid or a chorus girl or a second wife), your grandmother was born 180 years ago, in 1827.

If you are now 12, your mom had you when she was 16 and your grandma had your mom when she was 16 too, she was born 44 years ago, in 1963.

Chances are you are 14 - 24 and there are about 30 years between your generations, so she was born around 74 - 84 years ago. All three are physically possible. I was the first-born of the first-born, and there were only 56 years between my grandmother and I. There were 88 between her and my youngest 1st cousin, the last born child of my grandmother's last born child.

If you give us some names, birth years and death years (no details on living people) we can help. Otherwise we're just guessing. "Cloud" could have been as close as the immigration official could come, when your grandma got off the boat from Hong Kong or Hungary. She might have been English via a Canadian who moved to Oklahoma married a Cherokee. She might be 7/8ths something and 1/8th another. It is anyone's guess which 8th had the surname Cloud.

Here are 51 people surnamed Cloud with race = Native American from the LDS 1880 census. It proves some NAs had it.

1. Black CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Wisconsin
Self Gender: Male Birth: <1840> WI

2. Good Hart CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Wisconsin
Wife Gender: Female Birth: <1850> WI

3. Enngah CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Wisconsin
Dau Gender: Female Birth: <1866> WI

4. John B. CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Dakota Territory
Self Gender: Male Birth: <1845> MN

5. Agnes CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Dakota Territory
Wife Gender: Female Birth: <1840> MN

6. Johnson CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Dakota Territory
Son Gender: Male Birth: <1876> DAKOTA

7. Henry CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Dakota Territory
Son Gender: Male Birth: <1877> DAKOTA

8. Jane CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Dakota Territory
Dau Gender: Female Birth: <1878> DAKOTA

9. Julia CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Dakota Territory
Self Gender: Female Birth: <1818> MN

10. Tom CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Wisconsin
Self Gender: Male Birth: <1848> WI

11. Mary CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Wisconsin
Wife Gender: Female Birth: <1849> WI

12. Bultice CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Wisconsin
Son Gender: Male Birth: <1864> WI

13. Joe CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Wisconsin
Son Gender: Male Birth: <1867> WI

14. Kobert CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Wisconsin
Son Gender: Male Birth: <1869> WI

15. Susan CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Wisconsin
Dau Gender: Female Birth: <1872> WI

16. Mary Ann CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Wisconsin
Dau Gender: Female Birth: <1873> WI

17. Johnnie CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Wisconsin
Son Gender: Male Birth: <1875> WI

18. Martin CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Minnesota
Self Gender: Male Birth: <1836> WI

19. Theresa CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Minnesota
Wife Gender: Female Birth: <1842> CANADA

20. Catherine CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Minnesota
Dau Gender: Female Birth: <1858> MN

21. Isabel CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Minnesota
Dau Gender: Female Birth: <1861> MN

22. Theresa CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Minnesota
Dau Gender: Female Birth: <1863> MN

23. George CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Minnesota
Son Gender: Male Birth: <1865> MN

24. Alexis CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Minnesota
Son Gender: Male Birth: <1870> MN

25. Martin CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Minnesota
Son Gender: Male Birth: <1872> MN

26. David CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Michigan
Self Gender: Male Birth: <1840> MI

27. James CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Michigan
Son Gender: Male Birth: <1875> MI

28. Mary CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Michigan
Other Gender: Female Birth: <1860> MI

29. Jane CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Michigan
Dau Gender: Female Birth: <1879> MI

30. James CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Michigan
Self Gender: Male Birth: <1830> MI

31. Mary CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Michigan
Wife Gender: Female Birth: <1840> MI

32. David CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Michigan
Son Gender: Male Birth: <1859> MI

33. Eliza CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Michigan
Dau Gender: Female Birth: <1861> MI

34. Lucy CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Michigan
Dau Gender: Female Birth: <1865> MI

35. Malpass D. CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Michigan
Son Gender: Male Birth: <1870> MI

36. Agnes CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Michigan
Dau Gender: Female Birth: <1872> MI

37. James CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Michigan
Son Gender: Male Birth: <1879> MI

38. Thorn CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Minnesota
Self Gender: Male Birth: <1838> WI

39. Hatty CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Minnesota
Wife Gender: Female Birth: <1842> WI

40. Maggey CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Minnesota
Dau Gender: Female Birth: <1868> WI

41. Paul CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Minnesota
Son Gender: Male Birth: <1872> WI

42. Thain CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Minnesota
Son Gender: Male Birth: <1874> MN

43. Janice CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Minnesota
Dau Gender: Female Birth: <1876> MN

44. Julia CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Minnesota
Dau Gender: Female Birth: <1878> MN

45. Paula CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Minnesota
Dau Gender: Female Birth: <1879> MN

46. Henry CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Minnesota
Self Gender: Male Birth: <1822> MN

47. Catherine CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Minnesota
Wife Gender: Female Birth: <1828> MN

48. Maksan CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Minnesota
Son Gender: Male Birth: <1862> NE

49. Emma CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Minnesota
Wife Gender: Female Birth: <1860> MN

50. Robert CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Minnesota
Self Gender: Male Birth: <1856> MN

51. Gustave CLOUD - 1880 United States Census / Minnesota
Other Gender: Male Birth: <1880> MN

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